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right good evening fade to black

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babe to Black Thursday night phaidor

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night holy crap we got a great night

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tonight Jon Rappoport is gonna be here

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in just a minute

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ah annek Pope is gonna be here to help

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me take phone calls oh I just thought of

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I need to get Nick over here on this so

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it's Nick Pope man jeez I'm running out

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of time here I got to do this now see

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this is part of this is what's really

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cool about about this which is okay

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let's see here it is actually Colin see

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you're a Papa right okay got it

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I can't say what his secret name is that

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and I got it he is here okay boom done

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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has announced on applying their - found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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the game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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Church on a game changer Radio Network

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and K GRA

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we need your help to get to the year

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black with jimmy touch on the

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Masse's yeah

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uh yeah it's Thursday it's another fader

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night May 10 2008 een 130 days into the

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new year just 235 days left we are live

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from a bunker somewhere in downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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far and this is fade to black for KJ

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Sierra the game changer Network and K

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GRA the planet I am your host Jimmy

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Church what is cracking everybody it's

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Thursday night

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it's Fator night open lines all night

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long tonight tonight's well we've got

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hour with his no more fake newsroom live

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and then we're opening up the phone

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lines and I'm going to get a little bit

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of help tonight Nick Pope is gonna be

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here to help man the phones take your

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phone calls answer your questions all

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and it's just gonna be one of those

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nights now what we're gonna do we're

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gonna only run one phone line tonight 3

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gonna switch so let's get off that one

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we're gonna do 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 for 5 ok

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that up all right okay all right okay

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follow us on Twitter I J Church radio

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Facebook you can still did you see my

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so and that happened twice but other

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but I haven't used it so there you go

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but the the company page we may keep

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and they can see that and get reminded

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because we're spending all of our time

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over on stellar but YouTube you can go

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and subscribe to YouTube head over to

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Jimmy Church radio.com and you can sub

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our YouTube channel you can follow me on

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Facebook today if you need to get me

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or it's Twitter and that's it and just

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friends and family are all I'm worried

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about over on Facebook but I'll catch up

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to all of it email is Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm and you can email

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throughout the show and edgardo says I

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saw your pick the one I posted today

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because I was consuming alcohol in the

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picture what was that nice-looking drink

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you had in your hand at some of my

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but it's a square bottle that you see in

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the picture it's over on on stellar too

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on stellar so if you go over on stellar

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you can see what I'm talking about but

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the bottle I don't know if you can make

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it out but if you click on the picture

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on on so it's pretty big that bottle

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that's what it is there's no name on it

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and that means it's expensive all right

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let's go then I'm in a great mood it's

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Thursday night I get to hang out with

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all of you we've got nick pope we've got

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Jon Rappoport tonight and we're gonna

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open up the phone lines and take calls

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so get ready for that that'll be at the

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bottom of the hour and you know what's

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is this is what goes on if I right click

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that one out why it decides to do that

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where I was whether it's the internet or

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notes or word or whatever the scroll

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breaking news let's let's get to a

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couple of things here astronomers have

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exiled from the inner solar system the

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asteroid known as 2004 II W 95 likely

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and Jupiter but was soon hurled out into

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the Kuiper belt now this is according to

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a statement released by the European

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Southern Observatory this ancient exiled

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primordial days provides unprecedented

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really like now this is what they said

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in the statement but why is this news

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why why the press release it's my guess

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that there are probably millions of them

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something that we don't are we supposed

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to be alarmed about something I'm just

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speculating but all right I'm gonna give

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everybody the heads up on this today is

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day 16 of the on stellar alpha testing

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over it on stellar you can go and just

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click on the trending section it's right

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there's the one where I'm hoisting up

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the shot of tequila and now so over the

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next 24 to 48 hours you're gonna see a

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bunch of changes and improvements into

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these site but the big news is the news

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feed so the news feed is coming probably

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around this time tomorrow night

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hours so I would like to see a call to

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arms happen everybody that is on on

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stellar alright everybody I want

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everybody at on stellar to just go out

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and talk about it if we do this over the

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next couple of days post something on

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Facebook or Twitter or mention it and

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opposed somewhere or forum maybe a

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conversation amongst friends if

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everybody you know the with the amount

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of people that we have on the site right

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now if I can get everybody just to go

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out there and say something but two or

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three people four people we're gonna

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bust this thing to a million users in a

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month and that's what I really really

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want to see because then the floodgates

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are gonna open and I want to get to that

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point I I'm suggesting this for you I

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want everybody involved and and

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realizing what an amazing place this is

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so that's my call to our

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I posted the article up and I want all

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of you to think about that because I'm

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so proud with all of the emails and all

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of the messages and notes and posed and

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and and twee I'm so proud of everybody

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coming back oh man I cannot believe how

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cool this is

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thank you this is the greatest thing

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ever I haven't had one negative comment

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I haven't you can't there is nothing

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negative to say about on stellar right

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but it feels good when I get that kind

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of feedback and you will get that same

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feeling you want to enjoy this it's

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great

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you could be that game-changer that you

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really are just go out there and and and

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turn a couple of people onto this

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they're gonna come back to you and go

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dude dudette

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this is amazing Jimmy in red trouble

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ahead

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Josefa this is you know it is pretty red

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it's almost pink that happens to me but

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I have my screen extended across more

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than one screen it's like a ghost cursor

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of sorts I know it's trippy it's been

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going I didn't used to do that it's only

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started the last couple of months but

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I've had the multiple you know monitor

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thing here for a long time and I don't

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know I can't figure it out I'm trying to

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change my habits and it still comes

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right back anyway I'm stellar just

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everybody squat their opposed tweed do

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it a couple of times over the next

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couple of days because when you invite

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somebody now they're gonna come over -

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on stellar they're gonna see the

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newsfeed they're gonna get registered

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they're gonna see all these friends and

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people and we're doing stuff with

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you know what I don't want to give away

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too much because I don't know which

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stage is gonna happen first of all I

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know the news feed will be first but

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we've got some really really cool

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additions that are going to happen my

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screen is just flooded now with on

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stellar messages I don't even want to go

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over here and look I swear oh man you

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guys are too much I love all of you and

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that that little hoist of the tequila

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shot was heartfelt I really do mean that

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just thank thank thank you

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Rita and I everybody here at fade to

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black and on stellar it's just

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absolutely incredible somebody posted up

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in on stellar and I don't know who it

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was I don't have the message up anymore

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but this picture that says New York City

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loves on stellar I'm gonna post this up

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in Twitter and I'm gonna get everybody's

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names here and then I'm gonna get this

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image up in Twitter but man man man you

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know what I'm gonna do right now you

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have to see this check this out check

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this out

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this is what life is all about right

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here this is what life is all about and

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I'm not kidding all right

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it's about this look at this picture you

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ready are you guys ready it doesn't get

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any better than this

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check this huh BAM look at that picture

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does it get any better than that

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it does not that's what this family is

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about that's what this community is

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about

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around you this is what Rita and I get

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our energy from look at that okay now

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I'm gonna I'm I am going to get

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everybody's names here and and I'm gonna

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post this far and wide

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exactly right there look at that that's

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what life is about

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that's her next generation - I want to

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know everybody here everybody's gonna

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get the shout out of a lifetime but

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thank you for that all right let's see

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here okay now I announced last night on

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the show and I got a look at the clock

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here okay I got some stuff I gotta get

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out of the way I announced last night on

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the show that Corey Goode is gonna be my

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special guest to come and hang out up at

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the Seoul tech gathering so look look

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forward to that like I am Corey Goods

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gonna be hanging out he's never been to

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II said II before Rodgers good to be

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with them and we're gonna do the Sky

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Watch together and and so you know

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Friday and Saturday come and hang out

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Corey is there just to be with the fader

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knots okay he's gonna be hanging out

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with all of you and if you've ever

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wanted to just you know come up and say

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hi or have a conversation there you go

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okay so that's gonna go down but tickets

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and info are over at Seoul tech

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gathering and we've got the sky watch

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the Field of Dreams we're gonna be

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teaching for four straight days up there

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we've got james gilliland we've got

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jason quit Matthew Ryan Michaela Sheldon

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Teresa Ian Aras Holly Marie Mary Gabriel

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Ashley John lund Dana Harvey that is the

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most astounding list of teachers that

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you're ever gonna want all in one place

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300 fader knots we're gonna be hanging

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out and eating and and talking and

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making friends and to having experiences

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and memories of a lifetime

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so go now Seoul tech gathering we're

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only selling 300 tickets and it's August

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9th through the 12th it's coming up on

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us very very quickly okay all right

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August I'm through the 12th Seoul tech

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twenty-one days three weeks

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21 days June 1st through the 4th 2018

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contacting the desert Indian Wells Palm

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Resort and Spa four days sixty-five

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speakers I think it's 65 45 unknowns

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long list we will be broadcasting live

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Friday night I'll be hosting panels and

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events all weekend long and introducing

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an M seeing a bunch of our friends so

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get your tickets and info right now

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contact in the desert Indian Wells Palm

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Springs don't forget about our podcast

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we have over 850 shoves unbelievable

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custom apps Apple Android just $2 a

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month also you can become a fade or not

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now this picture that I just posted this

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New York City shot New York City loves

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on stellar you see that fade to black

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hat right there you see that you see

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that fade to black hat that's a fader

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knot right there there's only one way to

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get that hat we do not sell them I don't

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give them away I do not you can become a

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fade or not over in our membership

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section on the site you you become a

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game changer you get one of those fade

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the black hats autographed and that and

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that's a fader knot right there I don't

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know who it is I don't know I'm gonna

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find out though I'm gonna find out so

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you can do all of that in our membership

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section on the site let's get this show

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cracking happy birthday - today Bono is

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fitty eight Kenan Thompson my man that's

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right I like Kenan Thompson I don't care

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what you say today is 40 and one of my

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favorite movies good burger yeah when I

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was when our daughters were very young

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they they loved Kenan & Kel and when

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you're a parent you're forced into

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watching your children's programming and

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I got into Kenan & Kel

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absolutely - sit

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and watch Kenan and Kel happy birthday

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Kenan Thompson our dead guys birthday

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today is Sid Vicious moment of silence

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please

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1957 and 1979 died at the age of 21 on

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the evening of February 1st 1979 a small

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group of friends which included Jerry

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only of the misfits and Howie pyro of

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d-generation they gathered to celebrate

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Vicious having made bail he was arrested

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for murder at a friend's Manhattan

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apartment in New York City

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Sid overdosed on heroin and died in his

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sleep

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never mind the bullocks here's the Sex

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Pistols

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is the only studio album by The Sex

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Pistols it was released on the 28th of

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October 1977 Sid died just over two

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years later and he never got the chance

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to see how the Sex Pistols would change

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the world

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happy birthday Sid Vicious on this day

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in history 1877 President Rutherford B

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Hayes has the White House's first

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telephone installed in the telegraph

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room the phone number number one it

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would be 50 more years until President

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Herbert Hoover had the first telephone

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line installed at the president's desk

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in the Oval Office

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Fator fact here you go

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fader fact vetted there are more cars

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than people in Los Angeles California

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and that is a fader fact and until

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you've lived here not a week not a visit

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not a drive-by until you've lived here

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for a couple of years do you understand

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the truth of that there are more cars

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than people in Los Angeles California

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all right

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tonight's another Fator night Jon

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Rappoport and open lines all night long

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tonight we've got Nick Pope here it's

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going to join me Manning the phones

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taking your calls answering your

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questions and we'll be doing that at

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top of the hour now I'm gonna hit this

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coffee cuz I got something to say and I

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didn't need my River moon coffee gots to

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have it I was reading a few post that

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were sent to me today via email alright

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and it was really weird because I got

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two emails with about five posts from

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two different people that were cut and

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pasted in and and and where they came

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from doesn't matter because they were

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from various sources around the net but

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it was what was in them that tripped me

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out they were all pretty long but here

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are some of the best parts one of the

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post read you get I'm quoting here I

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just took a piece of it you can't trust

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any UFO researcher they are all in it

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for the money end quote

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now first there there are maybe two or

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three researchers out there that do it

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full-time okay and okay there may be

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more but trust me on this most

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researchers have a job have a job they

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work and I can I can tell you well I'm

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not gonna say specifically a name so

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Cowboys I was just gonna rattle off a

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bunch of names because I know I know the

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researchers and I know what they do

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during the day I know this most have a

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job in career and any researcher out

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there will tell you they ain't in it for

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the money because there is no money

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alright there is there's no full-time

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gig available there are a handful a

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handful Richard Dolan has a publishing

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company I get that right and and and and

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Linda has earthfiles and a few other

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things but it's Greer is doing his thing

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but other than that you know it's it's

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very slim the the hundreds and hundreds

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of authors and bloggers and researchers

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and and investigators move on

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everybody's got a job they're not in it

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for the money and that's exactly why you

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need to listen to everybody and it was

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just a surprising statement and why

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would you say something like that when

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you don't really know another one read

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what do you know today about UFOs that

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we didn't know 50 years ago

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nothing and quote and I'm just like wait

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a minute it's like the funniest thing

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I've read all year

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anyone who says this and thinks this is

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not studying anything they're not

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studying anything not from the past or

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from today they're not that this is this

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is the the weakest thing that I could

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ever imagine for somebody to post it's

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like a personal opinion from somebody

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that is just trying to troll because

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this this could not be farther from the

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truth we know so much more today it's

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really funny if you go back and look at

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the research that was being done in the

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books that were being written in the 50s

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and the 60s and the 70s and the 80s and

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and the research and what we know about

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today it's two different things called

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watch a UFO documentary from 1970 go go

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there's plenty of them and they're fun

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to watch it's just a crazy statement

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another one read some of the stuff you

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can't make you just can't make up Jimmy

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knows stuff that he isn't sharing with

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us he needs to tell us everything he's

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holding back

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makes him part of the system and they

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are using him to feed us disinfo what

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normally I would save this print it and

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put it in the frame you know hang that

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on the wall but but I'm not you know but

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one thing I need to make really really

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clear my day is spent researching and

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spent writing working on stuff if

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somebody is giving me dis simple to

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share I would like to know how it's done

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because there's no opportunity there

543
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I basically spend my days completely

544
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alone what with Rita but I don't have

545
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people around me right because well I

546
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don't take phone calls

547
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I don't really pick them up and I don't

548
00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:43,549
want to give you the wrong impression

549
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here but usually I'm too busy but unless

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it's important and it's someone that I

551
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:50,779
know but other than that I don't get

552
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:52,730
bogged down with phone calls so I'm not

553
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talking to somebody that's gonna feed me

554
00:31:00,330 --> 00:30:56,860
this info or somebody that I don't know

555
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:00,340
and most of the conversations are our

556
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:03,049
business-related it's not like it's

557
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:07,039
about the UFO subject 24/7 I'm talking

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00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:09,590
to guests and researchers it could be

559
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:13,190
about a I time-traveled a new world

560
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order near-death experiences dreams

561
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Egypt loss history it could be about

562
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anything alright so there's that part of

563
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it and I only make phone calls I guess

564
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:33,559
maybe I'm calling for the latest disinfo

565
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updates I don't know but I guess what

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I'm trying to say here is that anyone

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who would spend a day with me

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you know the ones that say that I'm a

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CIA shill would see that my days are

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totally normal I wake up coffee Rita

571
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dogs eat work coffee email work coffee

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dogs write little on stellar little

573
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Internet little Twitter write coffee

574
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:04,340
dogs Rita work blah blah blah then you

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00:32:08,979 --> 00:32:06,200
know that's my day and then it showed

576
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and then after that we go home watch

577
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some TV eat some dinner go to bed wake

578
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up the next day rinse and repeat I would

579
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:17,929
love to know how the CIA or the NSA or

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00:32:23,529 --> 00:32:20,149
the DoD comes into the picture

581
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I don't I I don't see the influence I

582
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don't see the disinfo so poster boy

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poster girl come and spend a day or two

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00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:31,399
with me and let me know where the

585
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disinfo leaks are so I can plug them if

586
00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:40,159
the agencies are getting it done through

587
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me they are better than we all know

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seriously because the real question is

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if there's just simple getting through

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is which guests that have been on the

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show are on their payroll hmm right

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possible gotta think about that one

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this is fade to black I am your host

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heavy metals and more there are our food

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seriously yeah seriously and life

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these as you say intruders SRA Chris are

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Ronnie where can people purchase life

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a calm Ronnie I want to thank you for

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you from the no more fake newsroom in

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suspect to be true that the world as it

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is fed to us every day by the Ministry

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of Truth is a lie of false reality a

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movie projected on the screen of our

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subconscious this however is the

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go down and we see the light of day a

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take it away Jon Thank You Jimmy good to

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be here I am having a little question

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about my audio level can you hear me

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okay you're good good okay

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good to be here good to be back folks so

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I want to get into at least one article

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tonight maybe two if we have time

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because I'll be commenting as I go along

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here with the first article picking up

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brave new world the future right around

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the corner I've been keeping you and

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myself up to date as well as possible

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and I want to continue this thread so we

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have an article from futurism dot-com

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titled we're getting closer to cloning

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humans here's what's stopping us this is

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the first article I see no date on it

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let's see no I don't see a date so we'll

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presume that it's in the last year or

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two for sure okay

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as recently as the year 2000 it seemed

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almost inevitable that rogue scientists

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would start human cloning any day yes

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over the past 15 years or so genetics

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research has gotten so advanced that

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from a scientific perspective we're

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actually pretty darn close to being able

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to create human clones but no need to

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freak out just yet there are significant

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barriers and they're not only scientific

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ones skipping around here the scientific

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advances have made it possible for

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companies to confidently charge

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customers to clone their beloved pets

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it's definitely a real thing and then

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the article mentioned something about

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Chinese scientists successfully cloning

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monkeys that lets me know this is most

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probably a 2018 article doesn't seem

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like much of a stretch that we could

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clone the humans right

726
00:40:43,830 --> 00:40:41,980
but given the science we have now it

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would still require a significant number

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of failed human pregnancies so many that

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it's hard to imagine ethics committees

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allowing the research to happen hmm

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really

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many countries simply would not allow

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this process any form of cloning is

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flat-out banned in 46 countries and

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reproductive cloning specifically to

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create full-grown humans is banned in

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another 32 countries leaving open the

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option to clone human cells for

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therapeutic uses but not complete humans

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however the article goes on to say

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that's not to say that just because

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scientists are not supposed to do

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something that they won't

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but human cloning research would require

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significant financial support and the

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infrastructure of sophisticated

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technology it's not something that could

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be done in someone's basement lab

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therefore unless some mad

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the billionaire decided to attempt the

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process privately anyone who wanted to

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carry out human cloning would have would

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have some form of review board to answer

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to well what about this is now my [\h__\h]

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what about a mad billionaire what about

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several mad billionaires cooperating

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behind the scenes or what about

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organizations that can access the

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sufficient funds maybe not from some mad

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billionaire but from collectively a

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number of different places to attempt

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the process of cloning a human what

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super-secret military labs and not just

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in the United States what about the

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attractive possibility that the military

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could create clones because ultimately

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their desire would be to have armies of

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clones somewhere out in the future and

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they would want to do

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preliminary experiments the article

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concludes quote because China hasn't

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formally banned cloning in any way some

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predicts afeared the Chinese scientists

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might attempt a human clone after their

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success in monkeys

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yet those researchers at least stated

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they had no plans to clone humans as

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quote social ethics would by no means

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allow that practice this last statement

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is telling should they perform human

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cloning scientists know very well that

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they would be shunned by the scientific

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and diplomatic community all together

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that pressure alone may be enough to

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keep rogue scientists from trying

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anything even in places where there are

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no legal limits on the practice at least

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for now hmm I don't know about that what

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about China no banned formally on

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cloning ample opportunities to do secret

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research I mean one of the countries in

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the world that really has the capacity

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to keep major secrets from their own

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population not to mention foreigners

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what about that with scientists who are

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ordered by the government say in a

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country like China or in a secret

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military facility in many countries with

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scientists really disobey orders on the

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basis that they would quote be shunned

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by the scientific and diplomatic

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community the point being they wouldn't

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be shunned no one would know who they

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were and the government would be on

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their side and the government or some

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agency of the government would have

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every reason to cover up such

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experiments because if they were

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revealed than they

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agency that ordered those experiments

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would be exposed I think there's a

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tremendous possibility of carrying out

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this research so now let's go to NBC

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News Chinese scientists clone monkeys

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break barrier to human cloning this is

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actually Reuters January 24 2018 Chinese

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scientists have cloned monkeys using the

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same technique that produced Dolly the

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sheep two decades ago breaking a

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technical barrier that could open the

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door to copying humans two identical

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long-tailed macaque monkeys were born

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eight and six weeks ago making them the

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first primates to be cloned from a non

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embryonic cell involved transferring the

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nucleus of a cell which includes its DNA

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into an egg which has had its nucleus

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removed researchers at the Chinese

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Academy of Sciences Institute of

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neuroscience in Shanghai said their work

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should be a boon to medical research by

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making it possible to study diseases in

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populations of genetically uniform

834
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monkeys but it also brings the

835
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feasibility of cloning to the doorstep

836
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of our own species well I have to

837
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we hear a lot about this when it comes

838
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to cloning well this is a boon to

839
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medical research making it possible to

840
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study diseases in populations of

841
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genetically uniform monkeys in other

842
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:13,880
words if you have 50 monkeys all of whom

843
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:16,650
were cloned and they have the exact same

844
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genetic structure then you can test out

845
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drugs to treat diseases in those monkeys

846
00:48:37,319 --> 00:48:28,869
pharmaceutical companies of course would

847
00:48:38,819 --> 00:48:37,329
love this yes I suppose that is true but

848
00:48:41,789 --> 00:48:38,829
on the other hand in an actual

849
00:48:45,299 --> 00:48:41,799
population of humans you're not dealing

850
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:45,309
with genetically uniform people you're

851
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:46,960
dealing with people that have little

852
00:48:54,359 --> 00:48:50,049
quirks and little differences to say

853
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,369
nothing of major differences in a larger

854
00:48:59,220 --> 00:48:56,559
biological picture where disease

855
00:49:03,240 --> 00:48:59,230
conditions arise and go away and come

856
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:03,250
back and so on and so forth so of what

857
00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:07,390
real value is it to be able to study

858
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:10,150
genetically uniform monkeys from a

859
00:49:19,529 --> 00:49:13,720
medical point of view or is that simply

860
00:49:22,049 --> 00:49:19,539
a cover story floated to make it seem

861
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:22,059
that there is a significant medical

862
00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:27,220
reason for doing this cloning when in

863
00:49:35,999 --> 00:49:29,500
fact the real reason is to produce

864
00:49:40,289 --> 00:49:36,009
clones to produce clones of any species

865
00:49:44,839 --> 00:49:40,299
including humans for purposes that would

866
00:49:50,009 --> 00:49:44,849
depend upon whose ponying up the money

867
00:49:56,339 --> 00:49:50,019
get it alright let me just continue on

868
00:49:59,490 --> 00:49:56,349
with this article a bit humans this is a

869
00:50:03,569 --> 00:49:59,500
quote from one of the supervisors of the

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Chinese program humans are primates so

871
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:05,619
for the cloning of primate species

872
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:08,980
including humans the technical barrier

873
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:15,730
is now broken that's quite a statement

874
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:19,630
and then again we have the same story

875
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:22,690
quote the reason we broke this barrier

876
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,730
is to produce animal models that are

877
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:27,359
useful for medicine for human health

878
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:30,040
there is no intention

879
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:36,490
to apply this method to humans maybe

880
00:50:49,290 --> 00:50:44,100
and there's more on the medical cover

881
00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:49,300
story etc etc the two newborn monkeys

882
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,190
are now being bottle-fed and are growing

883
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:53,440
normally the researchers said they

884
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:56,310
expect more macaque clones to be born

885
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:00,640
over the coming months more more more

886
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:07,540
more and this work has actually been

887
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:12,700
ongoing since well before in 1996 when

888
00:51:20,270 --> 00:51:17,650
Dolly the sheep was cloned the article

889
00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:20,280
states scientists have successfully

890
00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:22,870
cloned more than 20 other species

891
00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:25,720
including cows pigs dogs rabbits rats

892
00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:29,260
and mice similar work in primates

893
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:31,860
however had always failed

894
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:35,920
but the new research shows that it's not

895
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,450
the case anymore even so their success

896
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:45,280
rate was extremely low and the technique

897
00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:49,060
worked only when nuclei were transferred

898
00:52:03,390 --> 00:51:52,230
from fetal cells rather than adult ones

899
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:03,400
etc etc then we have some expert of in

900
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:05,670
London

901
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:09,700
Robin LaBelle badger cloning expert at

902
00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:12,330
the Francis Crick Institute in London

903
00:52:18,810 --> 00:52:15,820
says commenting on the Chinese research

904
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:18,820
the work in this paper is not a stepping

905
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:21,850
stone to establishing methods for

906
00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:25,720
obtaining live born human clones this

907
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:28,060
clearly remains a very foolish thing to

908
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:33,250
attempt he seems to be one of those

909
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:36,130
critics who believes no we're not close

910
00:52:55,060 --> 00:52:43,970
yet and so forth and so on the article

911
00:53:01,839 --> 00:52:55,070
ten use they're trying folks they're

912
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:01,849
trying they'll continue to try they have

913
00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:10,060
they're going to continue with their

914
00:53:14,859 --> 00:53:10,550
work

915
00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:14,869
and it certainly stands to reason that

916
00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:19,060
if anybody anywhere is making a serious

917
00:53:30,460 --> 00:53:24,560
organised attempt to clone a human that

918
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:30,470
it would be done in secret it would be

919
00:53:38,740 --> 00:53:35,599
done in secret and that would cover a

920
00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:38,750
huge range of experimental processes

921
00:53:56,609 --> 00:53:43,430
with many many failures many many

922
00:54:02,430 --> 00:53:56,619
failures so where are the real

923
00:54:07,630 --> 00:54:02,440
prohibitions against this their laws

924
00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:07,640
there are there's peer pressure as I

925
00:54:14,859 --> 00:54:10,310
mentioned before from scientists in the

926
00:54:18,430 --> 00:54:14,869
scientific community blackballing

927
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:18,440
certain SIA and scientists who would try

928
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:27,650
it is that really sufficient what about

929
00:54:35,290 --> 00:54:31,430
the desire talk about mad billionaires a

930
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:35,300
mad billionaire wants to bring back his

931
00:54:45,609 --> 00:54:42,849
mother and is so obsessed with the idea

932
00:54:48,130 --> 00:54:45,619
that he is willing to set up a facility

933
00:54:52,030 --> 00:54:48,140
somewhere and secretly fund an attempt

934
00:54:55,780 --> 00:54:52,040
to do just that there are so many

935
00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:55,790
permutations and possibilities here that

936
00:55:01,710 --> 00:54:57,740
I'm afraid the research is on

937
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:01,720
going and therefore we are getting

938
00:55:15,609 --> 00:55:11,170
part of the problem is and I'll finish

939
00:55:20,530 --> 00:55:15,619
here is that in media crystal media

940
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:20,540
coverage of these events and quote

941
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:34,060
you read an article here you read an

942
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:36,890
article there oh yes this attempt here

943
00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:38,900
oh yeah they succeeded in over here and

944
00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:41,030
of course there are prohibitions and no

945
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:42,830
one would really try to clone a human

946
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:45,650
and bah-bah-bah that's the end of the

947
00:55:58,140 --> 00:55:55,150
article there are no major media tough

948
00:56:03,190 --> 00:55:58,150
extended investigations into this and

949
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:03,200
expose x' they don't want to spend the

950
00:56:11,590 --> 00:56:07,070
time and the money and they certainly

951
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:11,600
don't want to find out that their

952
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:15,490
government and corporate partners are

953
00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:22,970
doing this or trying to clone humans so

954
00:56:29,830 --> 00:56:27,160
because of that we don't see the media

955
00:56:31,810 --> 00:56:29,840
pressing and pressuring i've spoken

956
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:31,820
about this before and i'm very aware of

957
00:56:36,790 --> 00:56:33,530
because i've been working as a reporter

958
00:56:40,510 --> 00:56:36,800
for 35 years and i know the difference

959
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:40,520
between a casual article here in a

960
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:43,570
casual article there and pressure

961
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:48,640
pressure expose x' ongoing

962
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:51,530
investigations which is a whole

963
00:56:57,940 --> 00:56:54,650
different story that wakes people up

964
00:57:01,240 --> 00:56:57,950
very very few of those kinds of

965
00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:01,250
investigations into anything are going

966
00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:06,200
on in major media today food for thought

967
00:57:11,950 --> 00:57:09,230
ladies and gentlemen thank you very much

968
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:11,960
and it's good to be back John I don't go

969
00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:16,480
anywhere don't do you remember clonaid

970
00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:21,260
no clonaid was a company you're gonna

971
00:57:28,329 --> 00:57:24,020
remember it when I when I mentioned this

972
00:57:31,710 --> 00:57:28,339
but they were a cloning human cloning

973
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:31,720
company that that popped up in the 90s

974
00:57:40,570 --> 00:57:34,609
big sensationalism claiming that they

975
00:57:43,060 --> 00:57:40,580
had cloned the first human child and I

976
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,070
believe she was a she right they they

977
00:57:51,099 --> 00:57:46,400
cloned the girl and when all over the

978
00:57:52,990 --> 00:57:51,109
news and they've they've I'm gonna go

979
00:57:56,650 --> 00:57:53,000
back and look but I'm pretty sure I read

980
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,660
something about them a few months ago

981
00:57:59,970 --> 00:57:58,640
that you know they're still running I

982
00:58:02,290 --> 00:57:59,980
don't know if they're based out of

983
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:02,300
seemed like they were in the Caribbean

984
00:58:11,410 --> 00:58:07,849
or something and that they were doing

985
00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:11,420
their cloning on an island somewhere

986
00:58:16,810 --> 00:58:14,900
else but it was a very sensational story

987
00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:16,820
and that they said that they had that a

988
00:58:24,310 --> 00:58:20,830
list of of the doctors and their

989
00:58:30,310 --> 00:58:24,320
techniques and how they did it but yeah

990
00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:30,320
clonaid it was clonaid co el cielo n AI

991
00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:31,220
D

992
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:34,420
if my memory I just looked it up yeah

993
00:58:44,170 --> 00:58:39,130
let's see pioneers in human cloning

994
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:44,180
that's right and also I think that this

995
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:46,730
is where I've got to go back in and tax

996
00:58:55,630 --> 00:58:52,400
my memory but I believe they were using

997
00:58:58,210 --> 00:58:55,640
alien technology right there's something

998
00:59:00,220 --> 00:58:58,220
there's something there was something to

999
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:00,230
it I can't remember

1000
00:59:06,670 --> 00:59:03,920
okay let me read this clone aid is the

1001
00:59:10,770 --> 00:59:06,680
world's leading provider of reproductive

1002
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:10,780
human cloning services Eve the first

1003
00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:15,710
cloned baby was born December 26 2002

1004
00:59:21,550 --> 00:59:18,980
right thanks to our team of highly

1005
00:59:23,650 --> 00:59:21,560
skilled scientists as such etc since

1006
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:23,660
then we've been able to help a number of

1007
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:24,910
patients

1008
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:27,010
have their own children through our

1009
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:29,770
cloning technology now I don't know if

1010
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:32,740
this is really true if they're really

1011
00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:37,060
doing this and did this or not I have no

1012
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:41,140
idea it's the first time I have looked

1013
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:43,570
at this they're talking about fill out

1014
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:48,900
our contact form yes yeah yeah yeah yeah

1015
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:52,510
yeah I'm gonna go back let's let's

1016
00:59:58,620 --> 00:59:56,020
circle back next Thursday and and

1017
01:00:02,250 --> 00:59:58,630
revisit this I'll you and I can talk

1018
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:02,260
over the week but I I did a lot of

1019
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:05,830
research back in the 90s when this

1020
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,950
kicked off I'm saying 90s you know we're

1021
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:10,720
talking 20 years ago now sort of you

1022
01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:14,400
know but but nonetheless clonaid yeah

1023
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:19,260
yep yeah yeah and they they they were in

1024
01:00:23,580 --> 01:00:21,730
constantly doing press releases and

1025
01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:23,590
there were a couple of videos and press

1026
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:27,100
conferences that were put together again

1027
01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:29,830
I'm reaching back 20 years but it it got

1028
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:31,720
pretty sensational there for a minute

1029
01:00:36,810 --> 01:00:34,510
but there I believe they're still doing

1030
01:00:39,690 --> 01:00:36,820
their thing and and I think they're

1031
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:39,700
there I think they I don't know what

1032
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:42,040
their thing is exactly and really but

1033
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:43,210
it's very interesting

1034
01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:46,480
clonaid can help you and then they give

1035
01:00:50,970 --> 01:00:49,060
a list of possibility if you're sterile

1036
01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:50,980
and have lost hope of having the child

1037
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:56,140
you dream of if you simply want to be

1038
01:01:00,210 --> 01:00:58,690
cloned yeah immortality was the other

1039
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,220
thing that they were talking about Oh

1040
01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:01,920
somebody just emailed me they were

1041
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:05,740
Raelians Rayleigh and he thought there

1042
01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:12,790
was kind of a cultish yeah yeah yeah I

1043
01:01:18,990 --> 01:01:15,400
remember the the woman that was the

1044
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:19,000
spokesperson too as well anyway I don't

1045
01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:21,490
want to waste waste my time sitting here

1046
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:25,600
trying to fire up my my frontal lobes

1047
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:28,090
and try to remember stuff I just can't

1048
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:30,190
do it but I'm gonna go back and revisit

1049
01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:32,470
this and listening to you tonight I was

1050
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,700
just thinking to myself what ever

1051
01:01:38,490 --> 01:01:35,920
happened to that company clone a

1052
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:38,500
and so there you go let's circle back

1053
01:01:42,779 --> 01:01:40,630
let's who we can find out and and maybe

1054
01:01:46,019 --> 01:01:42,789
they've got an island full of clones

1055
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,029
somewhere you know stashed away or maybe

1056
01:01:51,029 --> 01:01:48,400
they don't and they're just an island

1057
01:01:53,609 --> 01:01:51,039
full of money I don't I'm wearing

1058
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:53,619
wearing body suits I remember they had

1059
01:01:57,180 --> 01:01:54,490
outfits

1060
01:01:59,309 --> 01:01:57,190
well we'll follow up with clonaid and

1061
01:02:01,890 --> 01:01:59,319
maybe have some fun with that next week

1062
01:02:04,289 --> 01:02:01,900
until then be safe my friend and all the

1063
01:02:07,940 --> 01:02:04,299
best Thank You Jimmy thank you so much

1064
01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:07,950
Jon Rappoport and again I say this every

1065
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:11,400
Thursday you want to start off every day

1066
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:15,010
over at no more fake news.com all right

1067
01:02:19,230 --> 01:02:16,510
I'm gonna get out of here oh I'll be

1068
01:02:20,940 --> 01:02:19,240
right back with Nick Pope and we'll

1069
01:02:23,579 --> 01:02:20,950
start taking your phone calls now

1070
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:23,589
tonight we're gonna be using three two

1071
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:27,039
three eight two five five zero four five

1072
01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:29,920
three two three a two five five zero

1073
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:32,260
four five I'll be right back with Nick

1074
01:02:51,969 --> 01:02:33,950
Pope stay with us

1075
01:02:55,939 --> 01:02:53,809
this is fade to black

1076
01:02:59,449 --> 01:02:55,949
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1077
01:03:04,069 --> 01:02:59,459
radio network @kg RA the Global Radio

1078
01:03:06,979 --> 01:03:04,079
Alliance this is Katy are a digital

1079
01:03:11,509 --> 01:03:06,989
broadcasting station Salt Lake City Utah

1080
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:11,519
Van Buren Arkansas hello fader Knotts

1081
01:03:17,390 --> 01:03:13,890
this is Jimmy Church and I'm introducing

1082
01:03:21,019 --> 01:03:17,400
new pharma a company whose products are

1083
01:03:25,130 --> 01:03:21,029
based on science human function based on

1084
01:03:27,890 --> 01:03:25,140
the endocannabinoid system or ECS new

1085
01:03:29,929 --> 01:03:27,900
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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church tonight thursday

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01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:32,150
night Fator night open lines all night

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:37,280
long now these are the rules tonight we

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:40,130
have Nick Pope here but I'm only using

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01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:44,930
one phone bank tonight so use three two

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:48,320
three eight two five five zero four five

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01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:51,530
and we'll line up calls there anything

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01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:53,030
on three two three two seven five nine

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01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,970
six ninety five will not be answered

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01:07:02,079 --> 01:06:58,240
okay so that phone Bank is shut down

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:02,089
it's it makes my life easier okay so

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:03,770
that's those are the rules

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01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:06,890
three to three a to five five zero four

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01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:08,270
or five so those of you out there that

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01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:10,670
use speed dial with three to three to

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01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:12,470
seven five nine six nine five and try to

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01:07:17,230 --> 01:07:14,030
break in and try to get through and try

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:17,240
to cut in line it ain't gonna work all

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:20,810
right so let me welcome back to the

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01:07:26,829 --> 01:07:22,930
program Nick Pope Nick how are you man

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:26,839
fine thank you very much and now Nick

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01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:30,530
welcome back in and I'm so happy that

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01:07:35,770 --> 01:07:33,710
you took the time to come in and hang

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01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:35,780
out with everybody tonight and and

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01:07:41,859 --> 01:07:40,130
answer not only questions but just hang

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01:07:45,069 --> 01:07:41,869
out because it's a very busy night here

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01:07:48,579 --> 01:07:45,079
on the show and but I want to I wanted

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to ask you this kind of kicked things

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:49,099
off

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okay everybody I've got you on hold

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everything's lining up okay it's it's a

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01:07:56,770 --> 01:07:55,400
it's good to be crazy Nick you'll see

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01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:56,780
what it's like here on a Thursday night

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01:08:04,599 --> 01:07:59,839
it's it's a lot of fun a couple of

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01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:04,609
months ago I had well I got a surprise

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01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:08,329
call from Richard Doty right not making

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01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,270
the zone Richard calls in and I ended up

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01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:13,760
talking I've never spoken to him before

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01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:18,380
and I talked to him for like 90 minutes

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and during the and I was not mr. happy

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01:08:28,090 --> 01:08:26,450
camper okay I you know I've always had

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01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:28,100
questions lined up for him over the

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years in case we ever did get a chance

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:32,900
to talk but there he said something

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01:08:38,050 --> 01:08:36,770
during our conversation that I want to

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01:08:41,470 --> 01:08:38,060
relate to you because I

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01:08:43,150 --> 01:08:41,480
very interesting and certainly you've

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01:08:44,710 --> 01:08:43,160
been accused of this and you brought it

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01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:44,720
up the other night on the show that

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you're not a disabled guy you're not

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part of the mo D anymore that's not what

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01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:50,540
goes on you've been a you know that's

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01:08:57,010 --> 01:08:52,670
been brought up many times but Dodie

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01:08:59,530 --> 01:08:57,020
said I have been accused of you know

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01:09:03,370 --> 01:08:59,540
being a dis simple guy oddly enough

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01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:03,380
that's really funny but I've often

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01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:05,630
wondered if I've ever had a guest on the

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01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:09,100
show that could be right

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01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:13,430
Dodie said yeah exactly Dodie said that

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he knew that there were two that he knew

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personally to two people on the circuit

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01:09:32,650 --> 01:09:28,460
that are disinfo now that was an

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01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:32,660
interesting comment and he said one was

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a I believe I'm paraphrasing that one

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01:09:44,890 --> 01:09:42,140
was an a-level a a list speaker and one

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01:09:46,930 --> 01:09:44,900
was right below that person didn't tell

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me you know male or female or anything

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:48,350
like that I didn't want to know I told

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01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:51,170
him I said do not name names on this

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01:09:55,210 --> 01:09:53,510
show right I don't want to know but it

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01:09:58,660 --> 01:09:55,220
was an interesting statement coming out

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01:10:03,810 --> 01:09:58,670
of Dodie what do you think about that do

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:03,820
you think that there could be some some

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01:10:10,930 --> 01:10:07,610
somebody out there on the circuit that

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01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:10,940
could be a disinformation agent do you

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think that's possible not really to be

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to be perfectly honest and I'll tell you

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why government and and to fuel

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suspicions government wouldn't need to

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there's there's so much rivalry and

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hatred and not jobari

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if there is such a word that they

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frankly don't need to and everything

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about government is all economy of scale

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if you don't have to do something

1224
01:10:44,530 --> 01:10:39,680
because it's gonna happen anyway you

1225
01:10:47,530 --> 01:10:44,540
just let it run and you know we when I

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had responsibility for this subject at

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the Ministry of Defense if I had wanted

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to

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discredit the UFO community by putting

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people in and you're spreading

1231
01:11:02,050 --> 01:11:00,320
disinformation I suppose I could have

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01:11:06,670 --> 01:11:02,060
done that but I wouldn't have needed to

1233
01:11:10,690 --> 01:11:06,680
it it was doing it all by itself why do

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01:11:13,090 --> 01:11:10,700
you think Dodie would suggest something

1235
01:11:15,130 --> 01:11:13,100
like that and he said it as a matter of

1236
01:11:17,980 --> 01:11:15,140
fact by the way he said he wasn't

1237
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:17,990
guessing about this but why would he say

1238
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:21,170
something like that you know he's been

1239
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:22,850
out of the picture for so long is he

1240
01:11:28,150 --> 01:11:25,250
trying to intercept inject himself back

1241
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,160
into the narrative of again and and make

1242
01:11:32,290 --> 01:11:30,080
himself significant well I mean why

1243
01:11:36,850 --> 01:11:32,300
would he say that it did freak out a lot

1244
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:36,860
of people I don't know him I I'm not

1245
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,170
sure that I've ever met him or have a

1246
01:11:45,820 --> 01:11:41,840
conversation with him so I really can't

1247
01:11:48,970 --> 01:11:45,830
speak to what his his motivation is and

1248
01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:48,980
despite all the the statements that have

1249
01:11:54,940 --> 01:11:51,470
been made because I come at this from

1250
01:11:57,310 --> 01:11:54,950
the background UK government not US

1251
01:12:01,080 --> 01:11:57,320
government I don't even know you know

1252
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:01,090
what access he has really had to this

1253
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:05,330
subject if if we were fellow Brits I'm

1254
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:07,370
sure I would have seen his file and vice

1255
01:12:13,690 --> 01:12:11,600
versa but you know it's it's same same

1256
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:13,700
but different so I don't even know what

1257
01:12:19,450 --> 01:12:16,910
what security clearance he's had what

1258
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:19,460
documents he's seen what programs he's

1259
01:12:24,970 --> 01:12:22,370
been read into so I I simply can't

1260
01:12:26,770 --> 01:12:24,980
speculate mm-hmm okay fair enough

1261
01:12:29,470 --> 01:12:26,780
are you ready you want to take some

1262
01:12:31,330 --> 01:12:29,480
calls let's do this hi you're live on

1263
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:31,340
fade to black say hi to Nick Pope who's

1264
01:12:38,410 --> 01:12:34,610
calling all right Nick this is Phil

1265
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:38,420
christopher's and yeah actually I had

1266
01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:40,910
two things I guess we'll give it to Nick

1267
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:44,390
first is just based on what you just

1268
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:51,280
what is hiss they had something to hide

1269
01:12:58,270 --> 01:12:56,690
like a stealth fighter or something like

1270
01:13:01,180 --> 01:12:58,280
that I could see them doing

1271
01:13:02,740 --> 01:13:01,190
disinformation to kind of send him in a

1272
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:02,750
different direction that's what I'm

1273
01:13:07,570 --> 01:13:05,600
trying to drive out here now as you're

1274
01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:07,580
working with the Ministry of Defence

1275
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:11,780
doesn't that seem reasonable to you yes

1276
01:13:17,170 --> 01:13:14,930
but not quite in the way that Richard

1277
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:17,180
Doty seems to be doing this I mean no or

1278
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:19,840
rather not in the way that he's implying

1279
01:13:28,660 --> 01:13:22,490
we certainly in the British government

1280
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:28,670
from time to time I suppose we we found

1281
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:32,570
it useful on occasion to almost play up

1282
01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:37,520
the idea of extraterrestrials to to hide

1283
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:42,190
I suppose a secret prototype aircraft

1284
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:45,770
drones that sort of thing right but but

1285
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:47,990
there would be no need there would be no

1286
01:13:53,650 --> 01:13:51,290
need to recruit somebody to go out onto

1287
01:13:55,210 --> 01:13:53,660
the UFO lecture circuit and do that

1288
01:13:58,480 --> 01:13:55,220
because because there are so many

1289
01:14:00,730 --> 01:13:58,490
conflicting messages coming from the UFO

1290
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:00,740
community anyway government simply

1291
01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:02,930
wouldn't need to do it to push that

1292
01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:09,710
narrative the like you're you know your

1293
01:14:15,370 --> 01:14:12,350
famous picture that disappeared I mean

1294
01:14:17,860 --> 01:14:15,380
what about that could this information

1295
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:17,870
be used to deflect off of I'm not saying

1296
01:14:21,190 --> 01:14:19,210
you did with the picture but

1297
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:21,200
specifically with a program out there

1298
01:14:27,490 --> 01:14:24,170
maybe getting somebody out there to

1299
01:14:33,790 --> 01:14:27,500
speak about this and so maybe the

1300
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:33,800
Russians wouldn't know yes I I'm sorry

1301
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:36,110
for the see you've got some interference

1302
01:14:41,980 --> 01:14:39,770
coming in on the line but go ahead that

1303
01:14:44,050 --> 01:14:41,990
photo didn't so much disappear I know

1304
01:14:46,780 --> 01:14:44,060
exactly where it went at least in the

1305
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:46,790
short term my head of division took it

1306
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:48,770
down because he'd convinced himself that

1307
01:14:56,530 --> 01:14:52,570
it did indeed show some classified

1308
01:14:59,260 --> 01:14:56,540
hypersonic aircraft that either the US

1309
01:15:03,430 --> 01:14:59,270
or the UK government had and that we on

1310
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:03,440
the UFO project didn't have a read in to

1311
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:06,170
that particular classified project so

1312
01:15:10,660 --> 01:15:08,540
that's where it went in the short term

1313
01:15:12,910 --> 01:15:10,670
now where it went after that I don't

1314
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:12,920
know it certainly hasn't turned up in in

1315
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,310
the declassification release of of the

1316
01:15:20,290 --> 01:15:17,840
files but it's it's

1317
01:15:22,330 --> 01:15:20,300
it's out there somewhere it's probably

1318
01:15:26,860 --> 01:15:22,340
on someone's office wall still to this

1319
01:15:29,740 --> 01:15:26,870
day and when it comes to somebody like

1320
01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:29,750
Richard Doty when he had specifically

1321
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:34,670
said on this program that he was at a

1322
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:37,730
UFO conference after he had left right

1323
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:40,670
he had left the Air Force and he went to

1324
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:43,430
a UFO conference and looked out into the

1325
01:15:51,870 --> 01:15:48,290
audience and specifically saw a half a

1326
01:15:54,850 --> 01:15:51,880
dozen agents

1327
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:54,860
Air Force agents plain clothes that were

1328
01:16:00,130 --> 01:15:56,570
sitting in the audience and they knew

1329
01:16:03,460 --> 01:16:00,140
who he was he knew who they were and he

1330
01:16:06,430 --> 01:16:03,470
saw it for himself now that doesn't

1331
01:16:09,850 --> 01:16:06,440
surprise me and I have actually done

1332
01:16:13,690 --> 01:16:09,860
that myself back in oh I think it was

1333
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:13,700
probably 92 93 maybe 94 I went to a few

1334
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:17,600
UFO conferences in the UK and I sat at

1335
01:16:23,380 --> 01:16:20,450
the back and I took some notes and I

1336
01:16:26,740 --> 01:16:23,390
tried to blend in and but I wasn't that

1337
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:26,750
was not disinformation that was simply

1338
01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:30,880
me wanting to see what if any

1339
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:33,800
information the UFO community had

1340
01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:37,520
acquired about classified aerospace

1341
01:16:42,670 --> 01:16:40,880
programs that'sthat's very interesting

1342
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:42,680
and certainly on the other side of the

1343
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:44,690
fence you're there acquiring information

1344
01:16:48,940 --> 01:16:46,730
maybe you want to know what the UFO

1345
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:48,950
community is is currently talking about

1346
01:16:55,930 --> 01:16:51,670
and you need to stay out in front right

1347
01:16:59,980 --> 01:16:55,940
yes so I think it was keeping an eye on

1348
01:17:02,130 --> 01:16:59,990
the UFO community another example of

1349
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:02,140
that is literally we took out

1350
01:17:06,220 --> 01:17:04,370
subscriptions to some of the magazines

1351
01:17:09,550 --> 01:17:06,230
that were doing the rounds and we had

1352
01:17:11,740 --> 01:17:09,560
them sent to a p.o box number and they

1353
01:17:14,650 --> 01:17:11,750
ended up on my desk and it was simply

1354
01:17:19,570 --> 01:17:14,660
you know have these people stumbled

1355
01:17:22,570 --> 01:17:19,580
across stealth programs for example that

1356
01:17:25,420 --> 01:17:22,580
that we would rather that they hadn't

1357
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:25,430
stumbled across and if so can we get

1358
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:28,490
that genie back into the the bottle or

1359
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:30,410
not but but before we even make that

1360
01:17:34,030 --> 01:17:31,610
decision we have to

1361
01:17:36,370 --> 01:17:34,040
find out who who knows what so that

1362
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:36,380
means sometimes subscribing to the

1363
01:17:41,410 --> 01:17:38,570
magazines and sitting at the conference

1364
01:17:43,450 --> 01:17:41,420
so on that point I would agree with with

1365
01:17:45,790 --> 01:17:43,460
Richard Doty that that that sort of

1366
01:17:47,740 --> 01:17:45,800
thing does go on I've got this question

1367
01:17:49,570 --> 01:17:47,750
here from our producer Renee that she

1368
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:49,580
sent me earlier today so I wanted to get

1369
01:17:54,910 --> 01:17:51,860
this into you before things get out of

1370
01:18:00,250 --> 01:17:54,920
control three two three eight two five

1371
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:00,260
five zero four five is this since so

1372
01:18:06,370 --> 01:18:03,440
many humans want ETS here openly do you

1373
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:06,380
think the ETS currently interacting with

1374
01:18:09,850 --> 01:18:07,610
the military and government officials

1375
01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:09,860
who prefer secrecy for their own

1376
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:12,590
advantage should just reveal themselves

1377
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:18,800
to the public well if if they're here

1378
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:20,510
and if that's what's happening

1379
01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:23,360
absolutely I think the world would be

1380
01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:25,580
far more interesting after that

1381
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:29,300
revelation than before it but I mean the

1382
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:32,270
question is is that the situation and if

1383
01:18:38,740 --> 01:18:34,730
it is is that actually going to happen

1384
01:18:40,959 --> 01:18:38,750
probably not I mean I think that one of

1385
01:18:43,689 --> 01:18:40,969
the few assumptions we can make about

1386
01:18:46,570 --> 01:18:43,699
what's going on is that if we are being

1387
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:46,580
visited if there is some interaction it

1388
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:49,520
is going on on a covert level and we

1389
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:52,250
don't have the archetypal landing on the

1390
01:18:58,350 --> 01:18:54,290
White House lawn and there's probably a

1391
01:19:05,680 --> 01:18:58,360
reason for that and I've got another

1392
01:19:10,930 --> 01:19:05,690
okay so this comes in from Jenny and she

1393
01:19:12,580 --> 01:19:10,940
wants to know if there are the same well

1394
01:19:17,109 --> 01:19:12,590
it's a long question I'm trying to

1395
01:19:19,390 --> 01:19:17,119
paraphrase it here if if the Soviets if

1396
01:19:22,629 --> 01:19:19,400
the Russians have the same information

1397
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:22,639
that we do and are we sharing it with

1398
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:26,980
each other when it comes to ETS and UFOs

1399
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:29,449
well I don't think we're sharing it we

1400
01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:31,010
are probably trying to steal their

1401
01:19:36,910 --> 01:19:32,630
information and they're probably trying

1402
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:36,920
to steal ours and that probably applies

1403
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:41,510
as much to any other subject as as to

1404
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:45,410
UFOs now actually in we discussed the

1405
01:19:49,770 --> 01:19:47,290
I think on Tuesday but in the

1406
01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:49,780
Declassified British intelligence

1407
01:19:55,570 --> 01:19:53,030
assessment of the UFO phenomenon project

1408
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:55,580
condign there is actually a very good

1409
01:20:01,000 --> 01:19:58,400
summary and I'm supplying and surprised

1410
01:20:03,220 --> 01:20:01,010
it got Declassified because in a sense

1411
01:20:04,690 --> 01:20:03,230
it shows what we know about them but

1412
01:20:06,940 --> 01:20:04,700
there's a very good summary of what the

1413
01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:06,950
Russians are up to and and it's right

1414
01:20:15,130 --> 01:20:10,910
there in in project condign and what

1415
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:15,140
does it say specifically it just I I

1416
01:20:19,390 --> 01:20:17,120
don't have it in front of me and it runs

1417
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:19,400
to several pages and I think parts of it

1418
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:21,290
are still redacted but it it basically

1419
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:24,710
gives an overview of some of the Soviet

1420
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:28,250
programs that looked at this and and it

1421
01:20:36,190 --> 01:20:31,970
does end up by saying that the the

1422
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:36,200
Soviets did take a particular interest

1423
01:20:42,250 --> 01:20:39,470
in in potential military applications of

1424
01:20:44,650 --> 01:20:42,260
of this phenomenon it's commode again

1425
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:44,660
shouldn't surprise anyone no not at all

1426
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:46,610
not at all I would think that whatever

1427
01:20:52,330 --> 01:20:49,760
is going on here goes on globally you

1428
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:52,340
know there it's it's not a it's not a US

1429
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:55,040
or British or China it's not anybody's

1430
01:21:01,320 --> 01:20:57,050
this is a planet Earth right and

1431
01:21:03,610 --> 01:21:01,330
absolutely and I think you you were

1432
01:21:06,940 --> 01:21:03,620
referencing the Chinese there absolute

1433
01:21:10,030 --> 01:21:06,950
Chinese will be in this - but of course

1434
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,040
the as with all these situations it's

1435
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:12,560
it's like a game of cards everyone's at

1436
01:21:16,570 --> 01:21:14,480
the table but everyone's being very

1437
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:16,580
careful not to show their hand let's go

1438
01:21:20,830 --> 01:21:17,930
back to the phones how your life I'm

1439
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:20,840
fade to black who's calling from

1440
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:23,360
Sacramento hi Deb say hi to Nick Pope

1441
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:25,600
what do you have for Nick hi Nick Pope

1442
01:21:30,610 --> 01:21:28,880
it's good to have you back Nick okay the

1443
01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:30,620
other night you stated and I hope this

1444
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:32,450
isn't too personal a question but the

1445
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:33,770
other night you stated that you were an

1446
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:37,310
atheist and it's um I was I was a little

1447
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:39,110
bit curious about that because I would

1448
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:40,400
have seen with all the things you've

1449
01:21:45,550 --> 01:21:43,300
seen and I would suspect it's been

1450
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:45,560
extensive what what is your definition

1451
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:47,810
of an atheist and what brought you to

1452
01:21:53,380 --> 01:21:51,410
that to that conclusion well essentially

1453
01:21:57,970 --> 01:21:53,390
just someone who doesn't think there's a

1454
01:21:59,260 --> 01:21:57,980
God in my research and investigation

1455
01:22:02,850 --> 01:21:59,270
into the UFO

1456
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:02,860
I had to be very careful in making

1457
01:22:08,890 --> 01:22:05,510
statements about this that everything we

1458
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:08,900
came up with could be evidenced by by a

1459
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:13,490
really solid scientific data so for

1460
01:22:19,870 --> 01:22:16,010
example when I talk about pilots UFO

1461
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:19,880
sighting we didn't just get the

1462
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:22,880
testimony from the witness we wanted the

1463
01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:26,510
radar tapes so so it was very much much

1464
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:28,720
I sort of well show me the money

1465
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:31,490
you know let's see let's see the

1466
01:22:39,370 --> 01:22:34,730
evidence on on this and so that's really

1467
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:39,380
I mean that's where I decouple this

1468
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:42,050
subject from religion which i think is

1469
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:45,710
simply a matter of faith now if people

1470
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:48,320
want to believe that's that's fine but

1471
01:22:55,210 --> 01:22:52,190
but I personally as somebody who who's

1472
01:22:57,550 --> 01:22:55,220
investigated extraordinary phenomena for

1473
01:23:01,840 --> 01:22:57,560
the British government I want more than

1474
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:01,850
just belief I want something something

1475
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:03,890
more definitive something that that you

1476
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:06,650
can replicate something that that stands

1477
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:11,690
up to proper scientific scrutiny I'm

1478
01:23:15,730 --> 01:23:13,970
gonna jump in Deb it's funny that you

1479
01:23:19,870 --> 01:23:15,740
bring that up because there are this

1480
01:23:23,140 --> 01:23:19,880
huge thread popped up on the net it was

1481
01:23:26,590 --> 01:23:23,150
really funny it said that the start of

1482
01:23:28,930 --> 01:23:26,600
the thread was did the Pope just say he

1483
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:28,940
was an atheist right that was that was

1484
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:32,330
the start of the thread and some people

1485
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:36,560
heard the show some didn't but when you

1486
01:23:39,730 --> 01:23:38,090
start off the thread that way it was

1487
01:23:42,010 --> 01:23:39,740
like when did the Pope say this what are

1488
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:42,020
you talking about and I watched it take

1489
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,170
a life of its own and eventually I just

1490
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:46,880
jumped in I said well if the Pope said

1491
01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:50,960
it then it must be so right and that it

1492
01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:52,940
just went off from there dad thank you

1493
01:23:58,300 --> 01:23:55,910
for the phone call and behave yes and

1494
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:58,310
thank you Nick I appreciate it thank you

1495
01:24:01,000 --> 01:23:59,120
have a good night you guys

1496
01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:01,010
yeah thank you definitely yeah great

1497
01:24:07,090 --> 01:24:04,120
phone call right there let's uh let's

1498
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:07,100
let's take a call from the UK you ready

1499
01:24:10,630 --> 01:24:09,170
oh absolutely

1500
01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:10,640
hi you're live on fade to black who's

1501
01:24:17,989 --> 01:24:12,710
calling

1502
01:24:20,689 --> 01:24:17,999
Hornick hello hi Mary this is me again

1503
01:24:24,739 --> 01:24:20,699
hi mica how are you my friend

1504
01:24:29,629 --> 01:24:24,749
I'm good gee Jimmy I'm doing great and

1505
01:24:32,649 --> 01:24:29,639
Nick this is mica he is our producer at

1506
01:24:41,569 --> 01:24:32,659
large in the UK he's nine years old

1507
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:41,579
yep well nice to meet you so mica have

1508
01:24:48,009 --> 01:24:45,690
you met Nick before I have no I've heard

1509
01:24:51,169 --> 01:24:48,019
of him have you seen him on TV

1510
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:51,179
no I've seen a picture of him oh you've

1511
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:53,130
seen a picture of well we've all seen a

1512
01:25:03,770 --> 01:24:58,010
picture of Nick Pope but you know Nick

1513
01:25:07,609 --> 01:25:03,780
do you watch ancient aliens okay well he

1514
01:25:10,129 --> 01:25:07,619
was on the the premiere of this season

1515
01:25:12,770 --> 01:25:10,139
episode one so you can go back in and

1516
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:12,780
check that out but I know that you're a

1517
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:17,449
fan of Nick's and so say hello and and

1518
01:25:23,779 --> 01:25:20,249
the the floor is yours Mika what would

1519
01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:23,789
you like to ask Nick well I would like

1520
01:25:31,759 --> 01:25:28,710
to ask him have you seen UFO sadly I

1521
01:25:34,430 --> 01:25:31,769
haven't I've investigated hundreds if

1522
01:25:37,339 --> 01:25:34,440
not thousands of other people sightings

1523
01:25:40,729 --> 01:25:37,349
but I have yet to see one myself having

1524
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:40,739
said that we now live in Tucson Arizona

1525
01:25:45,919 --> 01:25:43,710
and that's a great place for sky

1526
01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:45,929
watching so if I'm going to see one

1527
01:25:59,299 --> 01:25:51,179
that'll be where it will happen okay if

1528
01:26:05,209 --> 01:25:59,309
they know is that there a place in the

1529
01:26:08,089 --> 01:26:05,219
UK like area 51 in America not really I

1530
01:26:12,759 --> 01:26:08,099
mean there are various locations where

1531
01:26:15,620 --> 01:26:12,769
the military will test-fly secret

1532
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:15,630
prototype aircraft and drones that sort

1533
01:26:19,069 --> 01:26:16,050
of thing

1534
01:26:22,219 --> 01:26:19,079
but the problem is that the UK is just

1535
01:26:25,549 --> 01:26:22,229
too small and and once you start flying

1536
01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:25,559
aircraft at say a thousand miles an hour

1537
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:27,630
you're across the UK and out over the

1538
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,130
sea and in an instant

1539
01:26:35,049 --> 01:26:31,440
so it's just not like the United States

1540
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:35,059
where you've got these vast areas of

1541
01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:37,710
hundreds of square miles thousands where

1542
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:40,020
you can you can fly things and no one

1543
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:42,480
will see you you just don't really get

1544
01:26:46,729 --> 01:26:45,270
that in the UK unfortunately hey Myka

1545
01:26:51,229 --> 01:26:46,739
let me jump in I want to ask Nick a

1546
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:51,239
question okay Nick there was I don't

1547
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:53,010
have the specifics in front of me but

1548
01:27:00,799 --> 01:26:57,210
there was a pretty famous case out of

1549
01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:00,809
the UK where I believe he was a farmer

1550
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:05,340
or remotely said that the Ministry of

1551
01:27:11,029 --> 01:27:08,610
Defence showed up there was a close

1552
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:11,039
encounter and they maybe even a crash

1553
01:27:21,049 --> 01:27:17,610
craft but he saw the being get taken and

1554
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:21,059
it was taken to a base and he named the

1555
01:27:26,899 --> 01:27:24,690
base and that what was that case and

1556
01:27:30,799 --> 01:27:26,909
what I think he called that base

1557
01:27:33,220 --> 01:27:30,809
Britain's area 51 well now yes and and

1558
01:27:36,649 --> 01:27:33,230
apologies make it because yes this is

1559
01:27:37,330 --> 01:27:36,659
possibly something which which I have

1560
01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:37,340
heard before

1561
01:27:45,290 --> 01:27:41,550
rod low manner is is a location which

1562
01:27:49,790 --> 01:27:45,300
has sometimes been called Britain's area

1563
01:27:54,049 --> 01:27:49,800
51 now I don't think it is but that was

1564
01:27:56,540 --> 01:27:54,059
an old Royal Air Force Base and there

1565
01:27:58,819 --> 01:27:56,550
was a manor house there and under the

1566
01:28:02,209 --> 01:27:58,829
manor house there were some tunnels and

1567
01:28:05,029 --> 01:28:02,219
and it led to one of those places where

1568
01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:05,039
if there'd been the danger of nuclear

1569
01:28:09,709 --> 01:28:07,230
war they would have evacuated the royal

1570
01:28:12,859 --> 01:28:09,719
family and senior government officials

1571
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:12,869
and there were rumours that there was a

1572
01:28:18,319 --> 01:28:14,610
UFO crash and that that's where they

1573
01:28:20,779 --> 01:28:18,329
took the aliens however I while I've

1574
01:28:23,299 --> 01:28:20,789
heard those rumors and I think that was

1575
01:28:25,939 --> 01:28:23,309
I was even on an episode of ancient

1576
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:25,949
aliens talking about some of that right

1577
01:28:32,270 --> 01:28:29,730
I am NOT absolutely convinced that that

1578
01:28:35,870 --> 01:28:32,280
we had an alien and and if we did that

1579
01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:35,880
we took them down there so I don't know

1580
01:28:38,060 --> 01:28:37,320
yeah but it's a it's an interesting

1581
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:38,070
story

1582
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:38,650
yeah it is

1583
01:28:43,979 --> 01:28:40,570
it's a very interesting story what's the

1584
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:43,989
name of the location again rut low mana

1585
01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:47,050
red low manner there you go Mika okay so

1586
01:28:51,870 --> 01:28:49,390
write that down red low manner okay

1587
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:51,880
Mika what else do you have for Nick this

1588
01:28:57,450 --> 01:28:54,489
is so much fun Nick I'm kind of digging

1589
01:28:59,370 --> 01:28:57,460
this right now but nothing yeah Mika

1590
01:29:02,700 --> 01:28:59,380
next question see I don't have to do

1591
01:29:06,410 --> 01:29:02,710
anything I can just kick back have you

1592
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:06,420
ever been to area 51

1593
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:13,090
no I haven't I have been asked to go for

1594
01:29:19,530 --> 01:29:16,960
a couple of television shows but I don't

1595
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:19,540
believe in causing trouble for the

1596
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:21,330
military I'm still even though I'm

1597
01:29:26,399 --> 01:29:23,770
retired from the Ministry of Defence I

1598
01:29:29,870 --> 01:29:26,409
don't want to do something that might be

1599
01:29:34,350 --> 01:29:29,880
seen as just a publicity stunt and and

1600
01:29:38,490 --> 01:29:34,360
create problems for the government here

1601
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:38,500
in the US where I live now so I am quite

1602
01:29:44,580 --> 01:29:41,170
happy if if they invite me I will come

1603
01:29:48,330 --> 01:29:44,590
but I'm not going to turn up and try and

1604
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:48,340
sneak in what Nick what you should do

1605
01:29:54,060 --> 01:29:50,890
why don't you I think that would be

1606
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:54,070
great for your career Nick Pope arrested

1607
01:30:00,620 --> 01:29:57,010
by the camo dudes and then you could

1608
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:00,630
kick in your dip a diplomatic immunity

1609
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:04,510
yes well I I will leave that for someone

1610
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:06,370
else all right fair enough

1611
01:30:12,689 --> 01:30:08,710
Mika next question do you have a whole

1612
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:12,699
list of questions Mika no okay cuz this

1613
01:30:16,979 --> 01:30:15,040
is these hey Nick you have to admit

1614
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:16,989
Micah's doing pretty good here oh

1615
01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:19,630
absolutely on the ball now on the ball

1616
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:23,590
okay Mika what's next have you heard me

1617
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:28,239
before on Jimmy show I'm afraid not

1618
01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:30,550
no but Jimmy said good things about you

1619
01:30:34,260 --> 01:30:32,620
when I was on the other night and said

1620
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:34,270
that you were very smart for your age

1621
01:30:42,450 --> 01:30:36,960
and had a lot of interesting questions

1622
01:30:49,379 --> 01:30:42,460
okay keep going Amica what's on your

1623
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:49,389
eyes and gray alien access for I don't

1624
01:30:54,860 --> 01:30:51,600
know I

1625
01:30:57,140 --> 01:30:54,870
one of these people that I sometimes

1626
01:31:00,170 --> 01:30:57,150
think that people in the UFO community

1627
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:00,180
or was very very certain about things

1628
01:31:03,980 --> 01:31:02,370
I've looked at this for the government

1629
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:03,990
and I'm the first person to say

1630
01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:06,690
sometimes I don't know I haven't been

1631
01:31:12,110 --> 01:31:09,230
there I don't have a US government

1632
01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:12,120
security clearance so they they just

1633
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:15,480
haven't told me if they if they do I am

1634
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:17,810
NOT briefed in on that particular

1635
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:23,730
classified program okay that's so thank

1636
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:24,290
you

1637
01:31:59,390 --> 01:31:39,530
day

1638
01:32:00,740 --> 01:31:59,400
meeting and getting together and what

1639
01:32:03,620 --> 01:32:00,750
are you guys gonna talk about today

1640
01:32:06,890 --> 01:32:03,630
certainly you are gonna go to everybody

1641
01:32:08,630 --> 01:32:06,900
and say today I got to speak to Nick

1642
01:32:10,940 --> 01:32:08,640
Pope and they're not gonna believe you

1643
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:10,950
so you can play back the show form that

1644
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:13,440
that's fine but what are you guys going

1645
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:17,520
to talk about today normally obviously

1646
01:32:23,450 --> 01:32:19,770
gonna talk about all they know at the

1647
01:32:27,620 --> 01:32:23,460
moment because I don't think they really

1648
01:32:32,090 --> 01:32:27,630
know and I have been helping them by

1649
01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:32,100
saying just search up area 51 and all of

1650
01:32:37,010 --> 01:32:34,260
that and then they'll probably come back

1651
01:32:39,170 --> 01:32:37,020
knowing stuff like me well you know

1652
01:32:43,580 --> 01:32:39,180
what's interesting for me and I know

1653
01:32:47,690 --> 01:32:43,590
Nick is listening to you right now your

1654
01:32:51,500 --> 01:32:47,700
interest in area 51 and I understand

1655
01:32:53,570 --> 01:32:51,510
that but for you what is it about area

1656
01:32:55,580 --> 01:32:53,580
51 is it because it's in the United

1657
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:55,590
States it's so secret it's been in a

1658
01:33:03,020 --> 01:32:57,450
couple of movies you're over there in

1659
01:33:04,670 --> 01:33:03,030
the UK or or you know why area 51 well

1660
01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:04,680
because

1661
01:33:10,850 --> 01:33:06,840
everybody who's been trying to get in

1662
01:33:14,780 --> 01:33:10,860
there to find out if s4 has UFOs and

1663
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:14,790
gray aliens but if you ask me everyone

1664
01:33:21,310 --> 01:33:18,710
thinks there's nothing kin there but as

1665
01:33:24,740 --> 01:33:21,320
like me I know

1666
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:24,750
definitely there's UFOs and gray alien

1667
01:33:30,470 --> 01:33:28,080
because I can you can remember that time

1668
01:33:32,690 --> 01:33:30,480
when I told you that shooting star went

1669
01:33:35,660 --> 01:33:32,700
across that well it was too fast for

1670
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:35,670
shooting start and too slow a little bit

1671
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:40,020
so I would say it would definitely be a

1672
01:33:45,770 --> 01:33:42,810
UFO and all them lights turned on on the

1673
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:45,780
runway and even a secret runway turned

1674
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:48,330
on and light and then they all turned

1675
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:51,600
off and nothing happened well what do

1676
01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:54,810
you think about me Nick isn't this great

1677
01:34:08,270 --> 01:33:58,530
it's just amazing for me Myka what do

1678
01:34:11,630 --> 01:34:08,280
you think about bob lazar have you gone

1679
01:34:14,030 --> 01:34:11,640
back Myka and certainly your parents can

1680
01:34:18,020 --> 01:34:14,040
help you do this but if you got back and

1681
01:34:21,430 --> 01:34:18,030
watched the the Bob Lazar interviews

1682
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:21,440
that were done in the early 90s about s4

1683
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:25,170
yeah and and what do you think do you

1684
01:34:34,190 --> 01:34:30,960
think he's a believable guy why do you I

1685
01:34:36,830 --> 01:34:34,200
do by the way I do Nick what do you

1686
01:34:38,090 --> 01:34:36,840
think about Bob Lazar and enigma I

1687
01:34:42,710 --> 01:34:38,100
understand but what do you think about

1688
01:34:45,170 --> 01:34:42,720
Bob today I don't know I again I haven't

1689
01:34:47,420 --> 01:34:45,180
met him I don't think I've met him I've

1690
01:34:49,940 --> 01:34:47,430
met a lot of people over the years but

1691
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:49,950
I'm sure I would probably remember that

1692
01:34:54,710 --> 01:34:53,010
and you know I I just don't like to

1693
01:34:57,230 --> 01:34:54,720
speculate too much when I haven't

1694
01:34:59,150 --> 01:34:57,240
actually sat down opposite someone

1695
01:35:02,930 --> 01:34:59,160
looked into their eyes and heard their

1696
01:35:06,430 --> 01:35:02,940
story firsthand in the intelligence

1697
01:35:10,490 --> 01:35:06,440
analysis community there's an old saying

1698
01:35:13,340 --> 01:35:10,500
interesting if true and I often trot

1699
01:35:15,110 --> 01:35:13,350
that out as as really the only answer

1700
01:35:17,620 --> 01:35:15,120
that you can give to an awful lot of

1701
01:35:19,570 --> 01:35:17,630
this this material and so

1702
01:35:23,770 --> 01:35:19,580
my take on Bob Lazar and his claims

1703
01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:23,780
interesting if true Myka anything else

1704
01:35:32,110 --> 01:35:27,230
for for mr. Pope before I send you off

1705
01:35:35,379 --> 01:35:32,120
to school no making you happy mom you

1706
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:35,389
have a great night and a great day at

1707
01:35:40,510 --> 01:35:38,090
school and and and tell everybody in

1708
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:40,520
your UFO Club that Nick and I said hello

1709
01:35:48,580 --> 01:35:44,239
will you do that for us thank you Myka

1710
01:35:51,729 --> 01:35:48,590
all right my night that what does that

1711
01:35:54,399 --> 01:35:51,739
right there that phone call what does

1712
01:35:56,890 --> 01:35:54,409
that tell you about our UFO community

1713
01:36:00,040 --> 01:35:56,900
you know he's nine years old he's on top

1714
01:36:07,629 --> 01:36:00,050
of his game well it tells me he's up at

1715
01:36:12,189 --> 01:36:07,639
4:30 in the morning you know I'd like to

1716
01:36:13,930 --> 01:36:12,199
think that when you go to again

1717
01:36:16,270 --> 01:36:13,940
everybody three two three eight to five

1718
01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:16,280
five zero four five I'm only using one

1719
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:18,710
foam Bank tonight I'm watching the other

1720
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:21,650
foam Bank light up don't use that one

1721
01:36:26,620 --> 01:36:23,449
just three two three eight two five five

1722
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:26,630
zero four five you've you've been going

1723
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:30,400
to conferences for quite a long time and

1724
01:36:36,879 --> 01:36:34,250
I see the changes Nick at these

1725
01:36:40,450 --> 01:36:36,889
conferences we have all generations

1726
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:40,460
represented now it didn't used to be

1727
01:36:45,550 --> 01:36:43,610
that and that was a complaint that went

1728
01:36:48,399 --> 01:36:45,560
around it was like you know the younger

1729
01:36:51,070 --> 01:36:48,409
generation isn't here it's just but it

1730
01:36:53,890 --> 01:36:51,080
seems to be changing now and you listen

1731
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:53,900
to somebody like Nick you listen to

1732
01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:56,719
somebody like mica and you have to think

1733
01:37:01,149 --> 01:36:58,370
that we're in pretty good hands do you

1734
01:37:03,970 --> 01:37:01,159
see the same the same changes at

1735
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:03,980
conferences now where it is all

1736
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:07,030
generations young and older are there

1737
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:10,400
not as much as it could be or should be

1738
01:37:17,890 --> 01:37:13,449
I mean it is changing and there are some

1739
01:37:20,379 --> 01:37:17,900
conferences where you do get more young

1740
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:20,389
people I mean that the one last year

1741
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:23,449
that stood out in my mind was alien corn

1742
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:25,730
and and I think the reason they did that

1743
01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:28,880
was that they actually blended science

1744
01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:31,310
fiction with ufology which I know

1745
01:37:37,690 --> 01:37:34,240
is controversial with some people but

1746
01:37:41,050 --> 01:37:37,700
they did that and they have cosplay too

1747
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:41,060
and that the view was well let's have

1748
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:42,770
some fun with this as well as the

1749
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:45,110
serious stuff let's do it in parallel so

1750
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:46,970
I think we're going to see that sort of

1751
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:52,130
thing at alien Con this year I think

1752
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:55,040
that we might see it contact in the

1753
01:37:59,500 --> 01:37:57,770
desert of course which is is just coming

1754
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,510
up I'll be very interested to see I'm

1755
01:38:05,410 --> 01:38:01,280
keeping my fingers crossed that we get a

1756
01:38:08,170 --> 01:38:05,420
lot of young people there it's not

1757
01:38:11,470 --> 01:38:08,180
changing as quickly as it it might I

1758
01:38:14,230 --> 01:38:11,480
have to say maybe I'm not quite as

1759
01:38:16,990 --> 01:38:14,240
optimistic as as you on on this I think

1760
01:38:19,630 --> 01:38:17,000
the jury is still out on this one well

1761
01:38:23,710 --> 01:38:19,640
the reason why I bring it up like I do I

1762
01:38:25,330 --> 01:38:23,720
know the the phone calls that I get here

1763
01:38:28,090 --> 01:38:25,340
the interaction that I get from this

1764
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:28,100
audience and also on coast-to-coast

1765
01:38:37,390 --> 01:38:33,890
too as well but I I would say that it's

1766
01:38:41,020 --> 01:38:37,400
about even in other words before I say

1767
01:38:42,730 --> 01:38:41,030
you know we get more younger phone calls

1768
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:42,740
here than we do all that that wouldn't

1769
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:46,010
be true or you know a my age group or so

1770
01:38:51,130 --> 01:38:47,840
forth I don't think that's true it's

1771
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:51,140
it's well represented across the board

1772
01:38:55,180 --> 01:38:53,600
and when we get the fader knots together

1773
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:55,190
and you're walking around these

1774
01:38:58,900 --> 01:38:56,810
conferences and you see all the fade to

1775
01:39:01,180 --> 01:38:58,910
black shirts well I'll look at the shirt

1776
01:39:03,970 --> 01:39:01,190
first that'll catch my eye and then I

1777
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:03,980
look to see who's wearing it and it

1778
01:39:12,340 --> 01:39:09,290
could be any age group I would think

1779
01:39:14,530 --> 01:39:12,350
that the fade to black shirts are for a

1780
01:39:20,410 --> 01:39:14,540
younger audience the other they're

1781
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:20,420
pretty rowdy but I see I see it across

1782
01:39:26,410 --> 01:39:23,450
the board and I'm okay with that you

1783
01:39:28,780 --> 01:39:26,420
know I want to know that you and I Nick

1784
01:39:31,330 --> 01:39:28,790
we're about the same age and we're not

1785
01:39:33,490 --> 01:39:31,340
gonna be on this planet forever and for

1786
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:33,500
what you do and for what I do and others

1787
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:36,530
that you know I want to know that this

1788
01:39:44,590 --> 01:39:40,880
this road to disclosure and discovery

1789
01:39:46,540 --> 01:39:44,600
and knowledge in research continues and

1790
01:39:49,540 --> 01:39:46,550
and that we are represented but I think

1791
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:49,550
that the younger groups out there I

1792
01:39:56,500 --> 01:39:53,570
don't think that they are going to be

1793
01:39:58,720 --> 01:39:56,510
shocked or surprised I think that the

1794
01:40:02,970 --> 01:39:58,730
older you know with disclosure I think

1795
01:40:05,470 --> 01:40:02,980
the older generation would be more into

1796
01:40:07,410 --> 01:40:05,480
getting freaked out about it I think the

1797
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:07,420
younger generation like mica is

1798
01:40:12,580 --> 01:40:11,090
expecting contact and they are okay with

1799
01:40:14,620 --> 01:40:12,590
it what do you think about that oh I

1800
01:40:16,630 --> 01:40:14,630
absolutely agree with that I think it

1801
01:40:19,570 --> 01:40:16,640
goes back to the old saying that you

1802
01:40:21,550 --> 01:40:19,580
don't shock people by telling them

1803
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:21,560
something revealing something that they

1804
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:24,320
already believe and yes absolutely the

1805
01:40:29,530 --> 01:40:26,330
young people whether it's through

1806
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:29,540
science fiction or video games or TV

1807
01:40:36,970 --> 01:40:32,930
shows whatever it is I think everyone

1808
01:40:39,820 --> 01:40:36,980
now is is pretty much fully on board

1809
01:40:43,870 --> 01:40:39,830
with the idea and and if if the

1810
01:40:46,570 --> 01:40:43,880
president went on TV you know tomorrow

1811
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:46,580
night and said there are aliens everyone

1812
01:40:51,490 --> 01:40:49,010
would just say yeah so what and you know

1813
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:51,500
we always figured it was probably true

1814
01:40:57,310 --> 01:40:54,710
yeah yeah do you think it would be the

1815
01:41:00,280 --> 01:40:57,320
same in the UK that kind of reaction as

1816
01:41:03,850 --> 01:41:00,290
here in the United States yes I think so

1817
01:41:05,290 --> 01:41:03,860
I think so and maybe it's a generational

1818
01:41:08,590 --> 01:41:05,300
thing but I'm a little bit more

1819
01:41:10,660 --> 01:41:08,600
optimistic I think even the older people

1820
01:41:13,810 --> 01:41:10,670
would probably be fine with it now I

1821
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:13,820
really don't think that we are any

1822
01:41:19,810 --> 01:41:17,330
longer in the era if indeed we ever were

1823
01:41:20,230 --> 01:41:19,820
of panic in the streets run for the

1824
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:20,240
hills

1825
01:41:28,420 --> 01:41:24,490
yeah I've you know I've often said if

1826
01:41:31,450 --> 01:41:28,430
you're in Tucson right okay so over in

1827
01:41:33,340 --> 01:41:31,460
Tucson you know the 10 freeway right

1828
01:41:37,330 --> 01:41:33,350
it's right there the 10 freeway going up

1829
01:41:40,150 --> 01:41:37,340
to Phoenix and if if the UFO came down

1830
01:41:42,340 --> 01:41:40,160
and blocked the 10 freeway and blocked

1831
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:42,350
traffic you would have about 10 minutes

1832
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:45,890
of people in amazement but after that

1833
01:41:49,810 --> 01:41:48,050
you're gonna have people getting out of

1834
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:49,820
their cars going get this thing off of

1835
01:41:54,730 --> 01:41:51,530
the freeway right

1836
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:54,740
we've got places to go and I think it

1837
01:41:58,430 --> 01:41:56,250
would be like that

1838
01:41:59,600 --> 01:41:58,440
really do let's let's go back to the

1839
01:42:03,440 --> 01:41:59,610
phones hi you're live on fade to black

1840
01:42:07,130 --> 01:42:03,450
who's calling Scott how are you hi Scott

1841
01:42:10,430 --> 01:42:07,140
say hi to Nick hi Nick how are you sir

1842
01:42:11,930 --> 01:42:10,440
fine thank you all I have to admit I'm

1843
01:42:15,710 --> 01:42:11,940
the guy that started the Pope thing to

1844
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:15,720
say oh that was you okay that was me all

1845
01:42:19,550 --> 01:42:17,250
right fair enough fair enough

1846
01:42:22,970 --> 01:42:19,560
yeah what do you have for Nick I have a

1847
01:42:25,130 --> 01:42:22,980
fair question for you and Nick you said

1848
01:42:26,540 --> 01:42:25,140
you're an atheist and I can understand

1849
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:26,550
everybody has their own opinions on what

1850
01:42:32,090 --> 01:42:29,010
goes around in this world but let me ask

1851
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:32,100
you something the human anatomy what do

1852
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:37,250
you think had designed that evolution

1853
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:48,570
nope somewhere oh okay

1854
01:42:53,660 --> 01:42:50,810
Scott where are you going with this

1855
01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:53,670
believe me I love the question by the

1856
01:42:58,160 --> 01:42:55,490
way where are you going with this

1857
01:43:00,320 --> 01:42:58,170
what well I don't mean to offend anybody

1858
01:43:03,380 --> 01:43:00,330
but everything has to start from

1859
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:03,390
somewhere the flesh comes from somewhere

1860
01:43:09,290 --> 01:43:07,050
it just doesn't pop out of thin air even

1861
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:09,300
if it's evolution where did evolution

1862
01:43:18,050 --> 01:43:14,970
start asking Nick okay Nick I you know

1863
01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:18,060
what the atheists in you Nick I would

1864
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,310
love to hear this answer go ahead well I

1865
01:43:24,380 --> 01:43:21,840
don't think there are answers and I

1866
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:24,390
think even science says that we don't

1867
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:27,570
yet fully understand the mechanism and

1868
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:30,570
process by which life first arose any

1869
01:43:36,620 --> 01:43:34,440
more than we really understand how the

1870
01:43:39,110 --> 01:43:36,630
universe was created people talk

1871
01:43:41,150 --> 01:43:39,120
obviously about the the Big Bang and

1872
01:43:44,690 --> 01:43:41,160
then people say almost as a

1873
01:43:47,630 --> 01:43:44,700
philosophical point but what came before

1874
01:43:50,330 --> 01:43:47,640
the Big Bang but if the Big Bang was the

1875
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:50,340
point at which not just space but time

1876
01:43:59,330 --> 01:43:53,760
came into existence then even the word

1877
01:44:03,080 --> 01:43:59,340
before is meaningless and I don't have

1878
01:44:04,940 --> 01:44:03,090
answers for this and and the brightest

1879
01:44:07,070 --> 01:44:04,950
theoretical physicists in the world

1880
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,080
don't but none of that means that we

1881
01:44:10,350 --> 01:44:09,360
won't figure out a grand theory of

1882
01:44:13,230 --> 01:44:10,360
everything

1883
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:13,240
in a few years time after all I think

1884
01:44:18,810 --> 01:44:15,970
history shows that our understanding of

1885
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:18,820
the universe and of science and the laws

1886
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:22,630
of physics changes over time and we we

1887
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:25,440
just find out more and more stuff

1888
01:44:30,750 --> 01:44:28,330
there you go Scott and see the thing is

1889
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:30,760
have you to ask me that question I would

1890
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:33,010
have said okay ask me the same question

1891
01:44:42,690 --> 01:44:40,230
don't laugh I'll give you my answer what

1892
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:42,700
is your answer no ask me the question we

1893
01:44:51,690 --> 01:44:45,970
got to have dramatic effect the dramatic

1894
01:44:56,340 --> 01:44:51,700
effect well if it's evolution what you

1895
01:44:58,290 --> 01:44:56,350
saying is true then I I just can't

1896
01:45:03,650 --> 01:44:58,300
believe that would be in effect I really

1897
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:03,660
don't you know okay the question was

1898
01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:07,360
where did evolution come from where did

1899
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:09,820
it get its start right okay so here's

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01:45:19,650 --> 01:45:13,920
the answer the same 20 amino acids on

1901
01:45:20,580 --> 01:45:19,660
every planet in in the universe that's

1902
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:20,590
where it came from

1903
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:24,970
so all of us have the same base and it

1904
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:28,810
doesn't matter if it's a worm if it's a

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01:45:36,060 --> 01:45:33,010
fly if it's if it's Nick Pope if it's me

1906
01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:36,070
if it's you it doesn't matter somebody

1907
01:45:41,940 --> 01:45:38,860
started it yeah you know probably a

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:41,950
lightning strike on a crystal in a lake

1909
01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:49,330
no it's magic as far as that goes the

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01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:53,200
the whole combination of of those

1911
01:45:59,310 --> 01:45:56,410
different amino acids and the creation

1912
01:46:03,390 --> 01:45:59,320
of DNA and and and how this happened so

1913
01:46:05,130 --> 01:46:03,400
that's the Richard Dawkins answer and

1914
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:05,140
that's that's where he comes from and

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01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:08,080
there is a certain amount of sense to

1916
01:46:13,470 --> 01:46:10,960
that that you can't argue me I take it

1917
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:13,480
from another thing and Nick and I talked

1918
01:46:18,210 --> 01:46:15,450
about this the other night I think

1919
01:46:20,010 --> 01:46:18,220
there's something out there very smart

1920
01:46:20,890 --> 01:46:20,020
and very intelligent that has been

1921
01:46:23,890 --> 01:46:20,900
around for

1922
01:46:25,810 --> 01:46:23,900
ever since before the our universe and

1923
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:25,820
was out there creating other universes

1924
01:46:31,870 --> 01:46:29,210
and it's gotten really really smart over

1925
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:31,880
hundreds of billions of years not just

1926
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:37,250
15 billion years and life is is is

1927
01:46:40,810 --> 01:46:39,170
created all the time and they have fun

1928
01:46:44,290 --> 01:46:40,820
with it because they're really smart and

1929
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:44,300
it's it's beyond our intelligence now is

1930
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:50,000
that God I don't know you know I I agree

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01:46:55,810 --> 01:46:53,210
but there's some sort of creation that

1932
01:46:58,240 --> 01:46:55,820
is creating all this and it goes back to

1933
01:47:03,700 --> 01:46:58,250
something well who read our human minds

1934
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:03,710
can't understand that and I did who

1935
01:47:16,060 --> 01:47:12,290
created God right and so that's where

1936
01:47:19,149 --> 01:47:16,070
Nick comes in and says see I'm right you

1937
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:19,159
can say it now Nick well no I I'm the

1938
01:47:22,750 --> 01:47:21,290
first one to admit that I don't have all

1939
01:47:24,850 --> 01:47:22,760
the answers but here's an interesting

1940
01:47:27,939 --> 01:47:24,860
philosophical point and I think it was

1941
01:47:31,470 --> 01:47:27,949
pretty much the the point that you just

1942
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:31,480
made but let's suppose one day and

1943
01:47:37,709 --> 01:47:34,010
people have tried to do this but let's

1944
01:47:41,250 --> 01:47:37,719
suppose one day that we do create life

1945
01:47:43,870 --> 01:47:41,260
ourselves in a test tube or maybe

1946
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:43,880
artificial intelligence a machine that

1947
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:45,530
becomes self-aware

1948
01:47:51,610 --> 01:47:48,890
now we created that life but does that

1949
01:47:54,010 --> 01:47:51,620
make us a creator with a capital C I

1950
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:54,020
would just I would say no I would just

1951
01:48:00,030 --> 01:47:56,810
say that it's being smart and doing

1952
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:00,040
stuff it's not going to create a soul

1953
01:48:07,180 --> 01:48:03,679
well okay so so Scott do you have to

1954
01:48:10,750 --> 01:48:07,190
then I'll pose this to Nick and even

1955
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:10,760
Scott you can jump in but Nick of going

1956
01:48:19,950 --> 01:48:15,310
back to the ancient aliens theory do you

1957
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:19,960
do postulate that UFOs and aliens were

1958
01:48:29,050 --> 01:48:25,330
confused with gods in history I don't

1959
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:29,060
necessarily think that I you know I I do

1960
01:48:37,780 --> 01:48:34,400
not 100% sure know that we've ever been

1961
01:48:39,730 --> 01:48:37,790
I mean I I simply don't know I'm as I've

1962
01:48:42,250 --> 01:48:39,740
said before we don't in the British

1963
01:48:43,540 --> 01:48:42,260
government we don't have a spaceship

1964
01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:43,550
hidden away in an airforce

1965
01:48:51,820 --> 01:48:47,600
hangar somewhere but if we have been

1966
01:48:55,060 --> 01:48:51,830
visited I can see how entities arriving

1967
01:48:58,270 --> 01:48:55,070
from the sky might have been worshiped

1968
01:49:00,040 --> 01:48:58,280
and regarded as gods and I think correct

1969
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:00,050
me if I'm wrong I might have made this

1970
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:02,690
point on the show on Tuesday night I

1971
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:06,080
think I discussed the classic arthur c

1972
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:08,410
clarke quote that any sufficiently

1973
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:11,230
advanced technology is indistinguishable

1974
01:49:16,150 --> 01:49:13,250
from magic

1975
01:49:20,380 --> 01:49:16,160
so true I would take that a step further

1976
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:20,390
and say any sufficiently advanced

1977
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:23,210
civilization is indistinguishable from

1978
01:49:29,380 --> 01:49:26,960
God right I mean what if as I say what

1979
01:49:32,710 --> 01:49:29,390
if we what if a theoretical what if a

1980
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:32,720
theoretical physicist at a place like

1981
01:49:40,630 --> 01:49:36,250
the Large Hadron Collider creates a

1982
01:49:42,940 --> 01:49:40,640
universe in that particle accelerator

1983
01:49:45,730 --> 01:49:42,950
what if someone creates life in a test

1984
01:49:49,030 --> 01:49:45,740
tube what if we build a machine so fat

1985
01:49:51,970 --> 01:49:49,040
powerful it becomes self-aware and as

1986
01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:51,980
for a soul well you know I I don't know

1987
01:49:58,180 --> 01:49:55,040
that there is such a thing we we regard

1988
01:50:01,870 --> 01:49:58,190
ourselves of self-aware and unconscious

1989
01:50:05,530 --> 01:50:01,880
but you know debates about the the split

1990
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:05,540
between brain and mind have been going

1991
01:50:12,220 --> 01:50:08,210
on almost since the dawn of time well

1992
01:50:17,710 --> 01:50:12,230
what are you when you what what's your

1993
01:50:20,620 --> 01:50:17,720
opinion then when we die do we just

1994
01:50:29,470 --> 01:50:20,630
achieve our part of evolution and just

1995
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:29,480
turn into dirt yep that's it yeah and

1996
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:31,370
that is where I disagree I think the

1997
01:50:36,490 --> 01:50:34,010
soul lives on into a different attorney

1998
01:50:38,260 --> 01:50:36,500
maybe a different dimension and if you

1999
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:38,270
didn't do your right justices here on

2000
01:50:42,730 --> 01:50:39,890
earth I think it comes back to your

2001
01:50:44,140 --> 01:50:42,740
lesson yeah then why go see I hope

2002
01:50:45,790 --> 01:50:44,150
you're right yeah I hope you're right

2003
01:50:47,860 --> 01:50:45,800
too I

2004
01:50:51,250 --> 01:50:47,870
but see this is this is what's great

2005
01:50:53,980 --> 01:50:51,260
about the both of you and myself that's

2006
01:50:57,550 --> 01:50:53,990
why God invented vanilla and chocolate

2007
01:50:59,290 --> 01:50:57,560
ice cream so we can all have choices hey

2008
01:51:01,390 --> 01:50:59,300
Scott enjoy the rest of your night my

2009
01:51:03,550 --> 01:51:01,400
friend thank you so much pleasure

2010
01:51:07,450 --> 01:51:03,560
talking to you guys have a great night

2011
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:07,460
yeah you too yeah thank you so but Nick

2012
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:10,400
but this just shows you this just shows

2013
01:51:15,370 --> 01:51:13,370
you why this workshop that I'm going to

2014
01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:15,380
be doing it contact in the desert is I

2015
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:17,990
think going to be a little bit lively

2016
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:20,960
yes it is and and I enjoy these

2017
01:51:27,070 --> 01:51:24,110
conversations because for me I'm in the

2018
01:51:31,480 --> 01:51:27,080
middle I don't know which way I would

2019
01:51:34,230 --> 01:51:31,490
fall on this fence right and and I enjoy

2020
01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:34,240
these conversations but let me ask you

2021
01:51:40,510 --> 01:51:38,060
when we have those out there and some

2022
01:51:45,310 --> 01:51:40,520
are friends of ours and yours that have

2023
01:51:50,710 --> 01:51:45,320
had near-death experiences our or or

2024
01:51:54,460 --> 01:51:50,720
have died died died dead died and and

2025
01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:54,470
have been brought back to life and they

2026
01:52:01,060 --> 01:51:58,250
share these experiences what do you

2027
01:52:04,510 --> 01:52:01,070
think's going on there I mean that those

2028
01:52:10,540 --> 01:52:04,520
that's a real experience probably some

2029
01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:10,550
sort of vivid hallucination in an oxygen

2030
01:52:19,780 --> 01:52:16,400
starved brain that okay that last it's

2031
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:19,790
for 30 minutes then kind of takes its

2032
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:22,610
fuel from from the particular

2033
01:52:30,730 --> 01:52:26,690
individuals cultural background right

2034
01:52:33,610 --> 01:52:30,740
their belief system group etc so it

2035
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:33,620
doesn't surprise me that people who say

2036
01:52:40,780 --> 01:52:38,570
you know are critically ill you know

2037
01:52:45,220 --> 01:52:40,790
perhaps through some combination of

2038
01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:45,230
oxygen deprivation and and drugs and

2039
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:53,450
wishful thinking see a light the the the

2040
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,970
adrenaline rush at the moment of

2041
01:53:04,689 --> 01:52:58,719
[Music]

2042
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:04,699
dying would probably be so extreme right

2043
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:07,280
as far as what you're talking about here

2044
01:53:12,069 --> 01:53:09,770
a hallucination or something but because

2045
01:53:13,899 --> 01:53:12,079
it would be like an electrical shock

2046
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:13,909
like you've never had in your life and

2047
01:53:19,359 --> 01:53:17,360
that could definitely constitute some

2048
01:53:21,010 --> 01:53:19,369
pretty crazy visions because we've all

2049
01:53:24,220 --> 01:53:21,020
had them right right before a car

2050
01:53:26,890 --> 01:53:24,230
accident or before you fall or trip or

2051
01:53:29,740 --> 01:53:26,900
fall down a hill or whatever it is when

2052
01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:29,750
something extreme happens you have that

2053
01:53:36,069 --> 01:53:33,710
adrenaline rush that and that would kick

2054
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:36,079
off maybe the pineal gland or other

2055
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:39,250
things and and unlock these vivid

2056
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:42,050
imagination memories that you've had

2057
01:53:48,669 --> 01:53:45,440
over the years and that could be this

2058
01:53:51,879 --> 01:53:48,679
life's review that everybody talks about

2059
01:53:55,169 --> 01:53:51,889
and and these memories are released all

2060
01:53:59,649 --> 01:53:55,179
at one time you think that could be the

2061
01:54:01,750 --> 01:53:59,659
this you know this vision it could it

2062
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:01,760
could well be I mean my goodness we

2063
01:54:07,330 --> 01:54:04,730
don't really even understand you know

2064
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:07,340
the the dreaming state right we know

2065
01:54:12,819 --> 01:54:09,110
that when we dream for example our

2066
01:54:14,979 --> 01:54:12,829
perception of time is skewed and that a

2067
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:14,989
dream that you have in in just a few

2068
01:54:21,729 --> 01:54:19,010
moments of napping can seem to last a

2069
01:54:23,950 --> 01:54:21,739
long time and to to encompass a really

2070
01:54:26,799 --> 01:54:23,960
complex structured narrative

2071
01:54:28,959 --> 01:54:26,809
now let's I'm gonna get back to the

2072
01:54:31,149 --> 01:54:28,969
phones but you just went up a notch

2073
01:54:32,890 --> 01:54:31,159
you've always been interesting but this

2074
01:54:34,750 --> 01:54:32,900
really got interesting to go back to the

2075
01:54:40,839 --> 01:54:34,760
phones I you live up fade to black sad

2076
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:40,849
and Nick Pope hello Nick Pope yeah I got

2077
01:54:45,490 --> 01:54:43,280
a two-part question for you first you

2078
01:54:48,700 --> 01:54:45,500
have to assume you have to state your

2079
01:54:50,859 --> 01:54:48,710
name oh this is Eric your waiting man hi

2080
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:50,869
Eric the awakening man okay what do you

2081
01:54:55,839 --> 01:54:53,090
have for Nick I'm taking the flip side

2082
01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:55,849
of Scott's question in the sense that

2083
01:55:00,459 --> 01:54:58,250
I'm gonna assume and if correct me if

2084
01:55:02,890 --> 01:55:00,469
I'm wrong mr. Pope it yeah in all

2085
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:02,900
likelihood you probably believe or you

2086
01:55:07,390 --> 01:55:04,639
accept the possibility that we were

2087
01:55:10,569 --> 01:55:07,400
being visited by non-human entities is

2088
01:55:11,770 --> 01:55:10,579
that a fair assumption I certainly think

2089
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:11,780
that it's

2090
01:55:16,810 --> 01:55:14,480
quite likely that there's life elsewhere

2091
01:55:19,330 --> 01:55:16,820
in the universe because in a sense I

2092
01:55:22,359 --> 01:55:19,340
don't think there's anything magical and

2093
01:55:25,540 --> 01:55:22,369
unique about planet Earth I think I

2094
01:55:27,879 --> 01:55:25,550
think we'll find that the standard what

2095
01:55:29,770 --> 01:55:27,889
is it that the competition principle

2096
01:55:32,649 --> 01:55:29,780
applies that we're probably just a

2097
01:55:35,770 --> 01:55:32,659
fairly average boring somewhere in the

2098
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:35,780
middle planet and therefore what happens

2099
01:55:39,819 --> 01:55:38,000
here I don't see any reason why it

2100
01:55:40,180 --> 01:55:39,829
shouldn't happen elsewhere in the

2101
01:55:42,189 --> 01:55:40,190
universe

2102
01:55:43,959 --> 01:55:42,199
as to whether we're being visited or not

2103
01:55:47,529 --> 01:55:43,969
I don't know but I certainly don't rule

2104
01:55:50,859 --> 01:55:47,539
it out okay I'm parked - thank you for

2105
01:55:53,140 --> 01:55:50,869
that part - is this is that you know I

2106
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:53,150
don't know if labeling anybody is an

2107
01:55:57,399 --> 01:55:55,730
atheist is there because there's for me

2108
01:56:00,939 --> 01:55:57,409
personally it's like okay when people

2109
01:56:02,890 --> 01:56:00,949
say God there is the theory that a lot

2110
01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:02,900
of people seem to buy into or think it's

2111
01:56:08,319 --> 01:56:06,320
possible that the demigods for example

2112
01:56:10,270 --> 01:56:08,329
came to Planet Earth and we were

2113
01:56:13,479 --> 01:56:10,280
hybridized or created through cloning or

2114
01:56:14,830 --> 01:56:13,489
whatever method where I mean is that up

2115
01:56:16,569 --> 01:56:14,840
can you see that it's more of a

2116
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:16,579
possibility than they're just one God

2117
01:56:22,510 --> 01:56:19,250
that created everybody well I think it

2118
01:56:25,060 --> 01:56:22,520
comes back to the point that that are we

2119
01:56:28,569 --> 01:56:25,070
I mean let's let's take that example if

2120
01:56:30,549 --> 01:56:28,579
if there are other civilizations out

2121
01:56:33,689 --> 01:56:30,559
there and many of them are far more

2122
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:33,699
advanced than ours I mean you mentioned

2123
01:56:40,930 --> 01:56:37,760
the phrase demigods but I would say in

2124
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,940
one sense that's probably not a label

2125
01:56:46,029 --> 01:56:42,800
that I would use I would I would just

2126
01:56:47,470 --> 01:56:46,039
say a life-form that that is a bit

2127
01:56:50,350 --> 01:56:47,480
smarter than human beings

2128
01:56:54,129 --> 01:56:50,360
I wouldn't it doesn't make them divine

2129
01:56:57,430 --> 01:56:54,139
any more than than we are divine now

2130
01:56:59,080 --> 01:56:57,440
because we're more technologically

2131
01:57:00,580 --> 01:56:59,090
advanced and scientifically

2132
01:57:05,649 --> 01:57:00,590
knowledgeable than we were in the Bronze

2133
01:57:06,430 --> 01:57:05,659
Age awesome well thank you for taking my

2134
01:57:08,410 --> 01:57:06,440
call

2135
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:08,420
get off the line here thanks Jay yeah

2136
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:10,610
thank you so much Eric great phone call

2137
01:57:17,169 --> 01:57:13,760
Nick you shut him down well done oh

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01:57:20,049 --> 01:57:17,179
that's not yeah I think I don't think I

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01:57:21,970 --> 01:57:20,059
shut him down Lee I answered hopefully I

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01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:21,980
answered his question and told him what

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01:57:28,270 --> 01:57:24,080
I thought well see you know and that

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01:57:30,370 --> 01:57:28,280
no this is not my intention it's not my

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01:57:31,870 --> 01:57:30,380
intention it's not my intention to tell

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01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:31,880
anyone what to believe I'm just telling

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01:57:36,070 --> 01:57:33,920
you what I believe wait till you see him

2146
01:57:39,970 --> 01:57:36,080
I contacted in the desert he's six foot

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01:57:43,330 --> 01:57:39,980
eight so I think I've introduced you to

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01:57:45,610 --> 01:57:43,340
him before but this is and you're

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01:57:47,650 --> 01:57:45,620
absolutely right your presentation at

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01:57:52,270 --> 01:57:47,660
contact then in the desert on this

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01:57:54,370 --> 01:57:52,280
subject will be a lively one because the

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01:57:57,190 --> 01:57:54,380
people that listen to this show are

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01:57:59,620 --> 01:57:57,200
completely open-minded right and I push

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01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:59,630
that agenda every single day listen

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01:58:04,420 --> 01:58:00,320
everybody

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01:58:07,210 --> 01:58:04,430
get together here let's talk about it

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01:58:10,930 --> 01:58:07,220
and and let's have some fun and when it

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01:58:14,140 --> 01:58:10,940
comes to religion that went and and you

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01:58:17,020 --> 01:58:14,150
throw UFOs and aliens into the mix you

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01:58:19,180 --> 01:58:17,030
have the most extreme opinions and

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01:58:21,790 --> 01:58:19,190
that's it and people are going to

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01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:21,800
believe what they what they want to

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01:58:25,660 --> 01:58:24,110
believe but I've got time for one more

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01:58:33,370 --> 01:58:25,670
phone call hi you're live on fade to

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01:58:38,110 --> 01:58:33,380
black say hi to Nick Pope hey Nick Pope

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01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:38,120
yes yes oh great nice to get you I was a

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01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:40,610
little bit ahead when I jumped over to

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01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:42,830
this phone was listening to you through

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01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:46,730
the computer Nick so you worked at the

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01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:49,370
the oh I'm sorry this is Tom from Dayton

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01:58:50,350 --> 01:58:49,730
Ohio

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01:58:52,810 --> 01:58:50,360
hi Tom

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01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:52,820
[Laughter]

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01:58:58,780 --> 01:58:56,330
nice to talk with you both today okay

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01:59:01,140 --> 01:58:58,790
we're gonna we're up against a network

2176
01:59:05,650 --> 01:59:01,150
break here Tom so what's your question

2177
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:05,660
yeah so Richard Doty called in Jimmy

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01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:08,330
turret or while ago and he was a distant

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01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:12,110
folk guy here and do you get a lot of

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01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:15,410
criticism because I would assume as a

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01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:20,810
retired mo DEA agent you get a

2182
01:59:24,930 --> 01:59:23,450
retirement check and so there is

2183
01:59:27,310 --> 01:59:24,940
something to be said about you know

2184
01:59:30,430 --> 01:59:27,320
possibly you still being on the payroll

2185
01:59:33,130 --> 01:59:30,440
does that ever come up and how do you

2186
01:59:36,190 --> 01:59:33,140
handle it if it does I will get a

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01:59:38,170 --> 01:59:36,200
government pension and I certainly don't

2188
01:59:39,940 --> 01:59:38,180
believe in

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01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:39,950
classified information I'm not a

2190
01:59:43,570 --> 01:59:42,290
whistleblower but like a lot of people

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01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:43,580
who've been involved in government

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01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:46,130
programs I take the view that if the

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01:59:50,740 --> 01:59:48,050
government itself D classifies

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:50,750
information that's then something that I

2195
01:59:55,150 --> 01:59:53,690
can comment on I absolutely get that

2196
01:59:57,310 --> 01:59:55,160
there will be people in the UFO and

2197
01:59:59,050 --> 01:59:57,320
conspiracy community who don't trust me

2198
02:00:02,650 --> 01:59:59,060
and will say once government always

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02:00:04,090 --> 02:00:02,660
government fair enough I don't much

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02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:04,100
doubt there's anything I can say to

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02:00:08,940 --> 02:00:06,530
those people that will dissuade them but

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I am honestly not still on the payroll

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02:00:13,390 --> 02:00:11,180
with the exception of the fact that I

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02:00:17,220 --> 02:00:13,400
get a pension or I will get a pension as

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02:00:19,900 --> 02:00:17,230
a former government employer employee

2206
02:00:21,550 --> 02:00:19,910
that's right and thank you for them

2207
02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:21,560
silly call Tom thank you for the phone

2208
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:24,800
call and I'll see ya thank you so much

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02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:26,450
great question and and the other thing

2210
02:00:31,030 --> 02:00:29,210
is Nick I mean I'll speak for you you

2211
02:00:36,130 --> 02:00:31,040
don't want to screw up that pension

2212
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:36,140
either you you have to be you have to

2213
02:00:41,770 --> 02:00:38,330
stay in Bound you know you you

2214
02:00:43,300 --> 02:00:41,780
definitely you know worked for this so

2215
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:43,310
why you know you don't want to

2216
02:00:46,810 --> 02:00:45,920
jeopardize that no but even if it wasn't

2217
02:00:48,970 --> 02:00:46,820
for the pension

2218
02:00:53,140 --> 02:00:48,980
I took a security oath and I take that

2219
02:00:56,410 --> 02:00:53,150
seriously a loyalty and integrity is is

2220
02:00:59,830 --> 02:00:56,420
important now what are you going to do

2221
02:01:07,480 --> 02:00:59,840
when you and I pass over right to the

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02:01:11,140 --> 02:01:07,490
other side what are you gonna do when I

2223
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:11,150
come up to you and go yo Nick can you

2224
02:01:18,430 --> 02:01:16,730
show me around this place I do yeah

2225
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:18,440
seeing as I don't think there is one I

2226
02:01:23,500 --> 02:01:20,930
guess I'll be pretty pretty darn

2227
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:23,510
surprised oh you and I and Richard

2228
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:25,330
Dawkins are gonna sit down and have a

2229
02:01:30,700 --> 02:01:27,770
have a little conversation Nick thank

2230
02:01:32,170 --> 02:01:30,710
you so much my friend and for coming in

2231
02:01:34,750 --> 02:01:32,180
tonight and doing this it means so much

2232
02:01:38,410 --> 02:01:34,760
to this audience and we'll see you I

2233
02:01:40,780 --> 02:01:38,420
can't believe it in three short weeks at

2234
02:01:43,210 --> 02:01:40,790
contact in the desert be safe and I'll

2235
02:01:45,190 --> 02:01:43,220
see you I'll see you out there thanks

2236
02:01:47,820 --> 02:01:45,200
Jimmy see that thank you so much Nick

2237
02:01:51,129 --> 02:01:47,830
and everybody can just go to Nick Pope

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02:01:52,569 --> 02:01:51,139
dotnet all of Annex scheduling is

2239
02:01:55,839 --> 02:01:52,579
right there his books are right there

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02:01:57,489 --> 02:01:55,849
and his his blog and everything that he

2241
02:02:00,520 --> 02:01:57,499
does great writing everything is right

2242
02:02:04,270 --> 02:02:00,530
there at Nick Pope dotnet and with that

2243
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:04,280
I am going to get over to another

2244
02:02:08,290 --> 02:02:06,110
commercial I'm gonna get this in now

2245
02:02:11,020 --> 02:02:08,300
this short break and when I come back

2246
02:02:14,139 --> 02:02:11,030
I'll continue the open lines with all of

2247
02:02:14,830 --> 02:02:14,149
you Thank You Nick great conversation

2248
02:02:16,419 --> 02:02:14,840
Nick Pope

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02:02:18,370 --> 02:02:16,429
this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church I'll be right back with

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02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:19,579
more of your phone calls right after

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02:02:22,890 --> 02:02:38,680
[Music]

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02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:41,859
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to fade to black always

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Jimmy Church on the game change in

2312
02:05:31,479 --> 02:05:29,449
network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

2313
02:05:34,419 --> 02:05:31,489
listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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02:05:38,250 --> 02:05:34,429
revolution the revolution will not be

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02:05:43,670 --> 02:05:38,260
televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:23,410
all right welcome back fade to black

2318
02:06:31,710 --> 02:06:26,210
Thank You Nick Pope that was great that

2319
02:06:35,020 --> 02:06:31,720
was great I've got my opinions though

2320
02:06:38,110 --> 02:06:35,030
you know and and I and it goes back to

2321
02:06:39,460 --> 02:06:38,120
my point which is oh by the way this

2322
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:39,470
fade to black I'm you'll see me Church

2323
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:41,810
you can follow me on Twitter at a church

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02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:44,480
Radiohead over on stellar alpha dot on

2325
02:06:50,650 --> 02:06:47,360
stellar dot-com get registered over

2326
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:50,660
there I have no idea how many fader nuts

2327
02:06:57,670 --> 02:06:53,050
are over a non seller but it's in it's

2328
02:06:58,570 --> 02:06:57,680
certainly a couple of thousand and all

2329
02:07:00,820 --> 02:06:58,580
of you

2330
02:07:03,340 --> 02:07:00,830
messaging me at the same time I'm trying

2331
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:03,350
to keep up and you guys can see that but

2332
02:07:07,330 --> 02:07:05,450
you can go over now and sell it we're

2333
02:07:10,450 --> 02:07:07,340
gonna figure out and have a chat

2334
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:10,460
solution over an on stellar so we can do

2335
02:07:15,340 --> 02:07:13,280
that and and but in the meantime you're

2336
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:15,350
more than welcome to message me over

2337
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:17,690
there certainly Twitter @j turds radio

2338
02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:20,330
and either of our chat rooms over at

2339
02:07:28,620 --> 02:07:25,040
Spreaker or kg are a the planet I have

2340
02:07:34,810 --> 02:07:28,630
my opinions about all of this and and

2341
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:34,820
Richard Dawkins who will never be on

2342
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:36,770
this program he's welcome to come on

2343
02:07:42,730 --> 02:07:38,210
this program but he wouldn't want to

2344
02:07:44,830 --> 02:07:42,740
hang out here but the the point with all

2345
02:07:49,300 --> 02:07:44,840
of this is and I want to stress this I

2346
02:07:52,180 --> 02:07:49,310
love our community and we can all sit

2347
02:07:55,570 --> 02:07:52,190
around and debate all of this there's no

2348
02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:55,580
reason for an atheist to be offended

2349
02:08:01,230 --> 02:07:57,530
there's no reason for somebody that

2350
02:08:04,990 --> 02:08:01,240
believes in in a god or or whatever

2351
02:08:07,810 --> 02:08:05,000
thing that you do should be offended if

2352
02:08:10,510 --> 02:08:07,820
you are into spirituality and don't

2353
02:08:12,550 --> 02:08:10,520
confuse religion with spirituality as

2354
02:08:15,670 --> 02:08:12,560
two different things and you can do

2355
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:15,680
nearly all of it at the same time too as

2356
02:08:19,390 --> 02:08:17,840
well I know that sounds weird it's kind

2357
02:08:21,730 --> 02:08:19,400
of like me somebody just called me

2358
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:21,740
agnostic all right let's go to the

2359
02:08:25,550 --> 02:08:22,970
phones how you live on fade to black

2360
02:08:27,770 --> 02:08:25,560
who's calling

2361
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:27,780
your life well how are you bugging me

2362
02:08:34,580 --> 02:08:32,010
yes what yes who's this hey my name is

2363
02:08:36,170 --> 02:08:34,590
Dale I've been listening to your radio

2364
02:08:39,740 --> 02:08:36,180
sir for a couple of months now and I

2365
02:08:42,050 --> 02:08:39,750
loved it and I took your advice and went

2366
02:08:46,190 --> 02:08:42,060
on to on stellar oh you did good though

2367
02:08:48,230 --> 02:08:46,200
yeah and there are a couple of friends I

2368
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:48,240
talked to about it and the first guy

2369
02:08:51,530 --> 02:08:50,010
asked me he's like what's their business

2370
02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:51,540
plan to stay in business they don't do

2371
02:08:54,860 --> 02:08:53,310
that they don't do data mining not like

2372
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:54,870
no I really don't have an idea about

2373
02:08:59,240 --> 02:08:55,410
that

2374
02:09:12,580 --> 02:08:59,250
yeah I would ask you about this we're

2375
02:09:15,740 --> 02:09:12,590
broke no it's what we are going to do is

2376
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:15,750
this will we are going to introduce the

2377
02:09:20,630 --> 02:09:18,450
blockchain and as you know when you go

2378
02:09:22,940 --> 02:09:20,640
to your profile page and you click on

2379
02:09:25,940 --> 02:09:22,950
your profile page which I'm going to do

2380
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:25,950
right now in real time here and you

2381
02:09:33,980 --> 02:09:29,460
scroll down on the left-hand side and

2382
02:09:36,530 --> 02:09:33,990
you will see your wallet okay you've got

2383
02:09:40,490 --> 02:09:36,540
a wallet there and you can see the on

2384
02:09:44,150 --> 02:09:40,500
stellar tokens now this isn't Bitcoin or

2385
02:09:46,070 --> 02:09:44,160
cryptocurrency this is a token the token

2386
02:09:50,270 --> 02:09:46,080
has value

2387
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:50,280
right now it's 20 cents per token but

2388
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:53,610
when you sign on to on stellar and you

2389
02:09:57,860 --> 02:09:55,920
register and if you use a referral code

2390
02:10:01,130 --> 02:09:57,870
if you don't use a referral code you've

2391
02:10:05,390 --> 02:10:01,140
got ten tokens if you use a referral

2392
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:05,400
code you're given another 15 token so

2393
02:10:13,490 --> 02:10:08,970
you'll have 25 tokens to start with but

2394
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:13,500
it is a token based economy so we're

2395
02:10:19,790 --> 02:10:16,770
going to have the blockchain built in

2396
02:10:23,380 --> 02:10:19,800
and the more activity that is done on

2397
02:10:27,710 --> 02:10:23,390
the site up voting down voting comments

2398
02:10:30,740 --> 02:10:27,720
creation of material and videos and

2399
02:10:33,710 --> 02:10:30,750
articles and things like that the more

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02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:33,720
that you do things on this and the more

2401
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:35,520
people that we have there

2402
02:10:41,390 --> 02:10:38,490
more comments and post and things that

2403
02:10:43,490 --> 02:10:41,400
are created the blockchain creates more

2404
02:10:48,350 --> 02:10:43,500
tokens and that goes back into the

2405
02:10:51,500 --> 02:10:48,360
economy and you are rewarded for your

2406
02:10:54,590 --> 02:10:51,510
comments for your uploading it for if

2407
02:10:57,650 --> 02:10:54,600
you write an article or whatever that

2408
02:11:00,530 --> 02:10:57,660
you do that stimulates the economy it's

2409
02:11:03,230 --> 02:11:00,540
just like a little a little town in the

2410
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:03,240
Midwest you've got a Main Street and

2411
02:11:06,530 --> 02:11:04,890
you've got a barber shop and a couple of

2412
02:11:09,470 --> 02:11:06,540
restaurants you've got a general store

2413
02:11:11,570 --> 02:11:09,480
and you've got things right and you've

2414
02:11:15,020 --> 02:11:11,580
got a farm outside of town and a ranch

2415
02:11:17,630 --> 02:11:15,030
that all feeds the little economy that's

2416
02:11:19,550 --> 02:11:17,640
in this town that's what I'm stellar is

2417
02:11:21,230 --> 02:11:19,560
that's why you're not gonna see

2418
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:21,240
advertising and that's why you're not

2419
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:23,730
gonna see outside influences you're not

2420
02:11:29,450 --> 02:11:26,010
gonna see a corporate structure come in

2421
02:11:32,270 --> 02:11:29,460
and try to to manhandle you or anything

2422
02:11:34,580 --> 02:11:32,280
like that and that's what it's based on

2423
02:11:37,010 --> 02:11:34,590
and all you have to do is go and

2424
02:11:39,620 --> 02:11:37,020
register and you can start participating

2425
02:11:41,870 --> 02:11:39,630
in the economy we're gonna get the

2426
02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:41,880
blockchain in here as soon as we clear

2427
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:44,730
out of the beta stage and we know that

2428
02:11:48,890 --> 02:11:47,010
everything is running and cool and there

2429
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:48,900
you go and that's that's it it's nothing

2430
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:51,170
more than that it's not a big secret

2431
02:11:57,290 --> 02:11:55,890
okay yes there's a couple of other kind

2432
02:11:58,960 --> 02:11:57,300
of what I call them alternate they're

2433
02:12:02,090 --> 02:11:58,970
taking that approach

2434
02:12:06,140 --> 02:12:02,100
so like gab is doing that yeah there

2435
02:12:11,210 --> 02:12:06,150
it's yeah it's the future of everything

2436
02:12:14,870 --> 02:12:11,220
and if if Facebook was smart if YouTube

2437
02:12:19,330 --> 02:12:14,880
was smart and everything I'm talking

2438
02:12:22,580 --> 02:12:19,340
about Netflix or anything out there they

2439
02:12:26,420 --> 02:12:22,590
would look at this as internet 3.0 and

2440
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:26,430
move into this type of structure with

2441
02:12:34,430 --> 02:12:31,130
the blockchain they should all do it and

2442
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:34,440
the the technology that everybody is

2443
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:36,930
based on right now is the technology

2444
02:12:42,500 --> 02:12:40,050
that was developed for this type of

2445
02:12:45,379 --> 02:12:42,510
economic system and and basis for the

2446
02:12:49,370 --> 02:12:45,389
Internet that's from 1995

2447
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:49,380
you know this is this is 2018 and we

2448
02:12:55,729 --> 02:12:51,840
will figure this out on our own and one

2449
02:12:57,799 --> 02:12:55,739
thing is for sure is that the the

2450
02:13:00,169 --> 02:12:57,809
internet and those that use the internet

2451
02:13:02,419 --> 02:13:00,179
have figured out something they don't

2452
02:13:04,909 --> 02:13:02,429
like being data mined they don't like

2453
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:04,919
their data being sold they're tired of

2454
02:13:10,209 --> 02:13:07,110
looking at advertising and they're tired

2455
02:13:13,790 --> 02:13:10,219
of selective advertising focused at them

2456
02:13:15,620 --> 02:13:13,800
when it feels intrusive there is nothing

2457
02:13:20,209 --> 02:13:15,630
you know what's creepy to me and your

2458
02:13:25,699 --> 02:13:20,219
name is Dale or Daryl no Dale okay you

2459
02:13:29,359 --> 02:13:25,709
know what's creepy to me is I last week

2460
02:13:33,889 --> 02:13:29,369
I'll give you a perfect example last

2461
02:13:36,319 --> 02:13:33,899
week Rita and I bought some furniture

2462
02:13:41,479 --> 02:13:36,329
for a family member

2463
02:13:43,790 --> 02:13:41,489
okay and we literally were in the car

2464
02:13:47,209 --> 02:13:43,800
and we were thinking about going to a

2465
02:13:50,959 --> 02:13:47,219
few different places and so we looked up

2466
02:13:51,290 --> 02:13:50,969
this piece of furniture you know on the

2467
02:13:53,689 --> 02:13:51,300
net

2468
02:13:55,639 --> 02:13:53,699
and you know so we can go to the closest

2469
02:13:58,489 --> 02:13:55,649
place and go and get it or buy it and

2470
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:58,499
have it delivered later on that

2471
02:14:05,389 --> 02:14:01,679
afternoon a few minutes after doing the

2472
02:14:10,370 --> 02:14:05,399
search right suddenly this furniture is

2473
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:10,380
now in our facebook newsfeed Ave you

2474
02:14:17,509 --> 02:14:15,090
know and it took it took minutes minutes

2475
02:14:19,459 --> 02:14:17,519
it's like the most offensive thing and

2476
02:14:22,939 --> 02:14:19,469
we're done with it what does suddenly we

2477
02:14:25,250 --> 02:14:22,949
need this furniture it's like in it it's

2478
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:25,260
like that and I don't need that in my

2479
02:14:28,279 --> 02:14:26,010
life

2480
02:14:30,500 --> 02:14:28,289
I don't I don't need that kind of Big

2481
02:14:32,299 --> 02:14:30,510
Brother action Dale and so you're not

2482
02:14:35,479 --> 02:14:32,309
gonna see that on on stellar I can

2483
02:14:37,790 --> 02:14:35,489
promise you have a great day oh yeah go

2484
02:14:42,020 --> 02:14:37,800
ahead yes you is that people are being

2485
02:14:44,540 --> 02:14:42,030
you know be platformed and censorship

2486
02:14:46,370 --> 02:14:44,550
yes all of a sudden yes that censorship

2487
02:14:48,409 --> 02:14:46,380
stuff I think it's probably a concern

2488
02:14:50,029 --> 02:14:48,419
some of my friends have yes and you're

2489
02:14:53,209 --> 02:14:50,039
not gonna have that override on stellar

2490
02:14:55,790 --> 02:14:53,219
just as long as you you know everybody's

2491
02:14:57,820 --> 02:14:55,800
got a moral compass and if you stay

2492
02:15:01,960 --> 02:14:57,830
inside of

2493
02:15:04,030 --> 02:15:01,970
you would normally do or say you stay

2494
02:15:07,330 --> 02:15:04,040
inside of those boundaries you can do

2495
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:07,340
whatever you want on on on stellar you

2496
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:09,290
know and and and think about that

2497
02:15:12,910 --> 02:15:11,210
there's not going to be that doesn't

2498
02:15:15,810 --> 02:15:12,920
mean oh man it's a freedom of speech no

2499
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:15,820
censorship all right I'm gonna do

2500
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:18,410
pornography and I'm gonna post that up I

2501
02:15:22,300 --> 02:15:20,480
know they ain't that kind of party

2502
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:22,310
that's not what I'm saying when I say no

2503
02:15:29,170 --> 02:15:24,770
censorship stay inside of the boundaries

2504
02:15:31,810 --> 02:15:29,180
this is I don't I don't have any

2505
02:15:35,170 --> 02:15:31,820
problems with somebody that doesn't

2506
02:15:37,300 --> 02:15:35,180
necessarily have an interest in the

2507
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:37,310
paranormal of the supernatural or UFOs

2508
02:15:42,250 --> 02:15:39,770
but they want to come over and hang out

2509
02:15:44,830 --> 02:15:42,260
and learn and they start a profile page

2510
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:44,840
and they want to post stuff about

2511
02:15:53,170 --> 02:15:46,130
crocheting

2512
02:15:56,020 --> 02:15:53,180
or golf you know that it's a yeah you

2513
02:15:58,170 --> 02:15:56,030
know but but that's that's what this is

2514
02:16:02,470 --> 02:15:58,180
about and if you can come over here and

2515
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:02,480
enjoy the platform without the intrusion

2516
02:16:07,330 --> 02:16:04,930
of data mining or corporations or

2517
02:16:09,130 --> 02:16:07,340
advertising and that's the environment

2518
02:16:10,990 --> 02:16:09,140
that you want well you're gonna have

2519
02:16:13,150 --> 02:16:11,000
that over here so come over and have fun

2520
02:16:15,610 --> 02:16:13,160
it's gonna blow up and I'm telling you

2521
02:16:17,170 --> 02:16:15,620
I'm stellar is gonna take over it's

2522
02:16:20,170 --> 02:16:17,180
gonna take over Thank You Dale have a

2523
02:16:22,930 --> 02:16:20,180
great night my friend thank you yeah

2524
02:16:24,940 --> 02:16:22,940
have a great night and let me do this

2525
02:16:28,510 --> 02:16:24,950
let me do this hi you're live on fade to

2526
02:16:34,870 --> 02:16:28,520
black I'm going with area code 604

2527
02:16:39,220 --> 02:16:34,880
you're up next on fade to black hi hi

2528
02:16:42,610 --> 02:16:39,230
Jim giving it its Paul over here hi Paul

2529
02:16:46,300 --> 02:16:42,620
in Vancouver what's on your mind hey you

2530
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:46,310
know what I'm really excited about on

2531
02:16:49,629 --> 02:16:48,410
stellar I think it's gonna I think it's

2532
02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:49,639
going to take off big time

2533
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:51,650
yes it is it doesn't have a choice you

2534
02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:54,170
know this is something that the

2535
02:17:00,040 --> 02:16:56,450
community in the world needs right now

2536
02:17:02,530 --> 02:17:00,050
and it's already blowing up and just I'm

2537
02:17:06,459 --> 02:17:02,540
telling you the next couple of months is

2538
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:06,469
gonna be an amazing ride so welcome

2539
02:17:11,370 --> 02:17:08,690
what's your screen name override on

2540
02:17:19,469 --> 02:17:15,940
well I uh I chose barren owl in the

2541
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:19,479
beginning but I had to changes because

2542
02:17:24,969 --> 02:17:23,450
I'm not sure you know I tried to get on

2543
02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:24,979
a couple of times but I'm not sure what

2544
02:17:28,480 --> 02:17:26,240
happened okay

2545
02:17:32,139 --> 02:17:28,490
well get over there and send me a friend

2546
02:17:34,690 --> 02:17:32,149
request okay yeah well thank you so much

2547
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:34,700
Paul behaving be well great phone call

2548
02:17:40,209 --> 02:17:36,800
hi you're live on fader block who's

2549
02:17:44,020 --> 02:17:40,219
calling hey Jimmy this is Mike over in

2550
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:44,030
Spokane a cream 66 on Stella ah

2551
02:17:51,250 --> 02:17:48,649
how are you mad I'm doing good tired but

2552
02:17:53,620 --> 02:17:51,260
I'm doing good Hey I just want to say I

2553
02:17:56,290 --> 02:17:53,630
listen to you every morning because as

2554
02:18:00,669 --> 02:17:56,300
you know I I get up really really early

2555
02:18:04,379 --> 02:18:00,679
and I work long hours but you your show

2556
02:18:08,379 --> 02:18:04,389
you have a way of hitting the public and

2557
02:18:10,179 --> 02:18:08,389
just to where it's like we're family I

2558
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:10,189
mean I know we're family you preach it

2559
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,250
constantly but I mean you literally feel

2560
02:18:18,459 --> 02:18:15,200
like you're family and that's cool and

2561
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:18,469
it makes my day go by so it's it's fun

2562
02:18:26,469 --> 02:18:21,050
and on stellar man I can't wait till

2563
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:26,479
everything just goes I know it is y'all

2564
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:31,120
you know what it's so much fun now and

2565
02:18:36,009 --> 02:18:33,530
because everything is is pretty much

2566
02:18:41,259 --> 02:18:36,019
running but after we get the news feed

2567
02:18:43,540 --> 02:18:41,269
in I mean for me I it was it was one of

2568
02:18:45,070 --> 02:18:43,550
my requirements for on stellar from the

2569
02:18:47,469 --> 02:18:45,080
beginning we have to do this and this

2570
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:47,479
and this on our profile page and it's

2571
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:50,719
something that nobody else does but once

2572
02:18:55,049 --> 02:18:52,490
that goes into play because we have

2573
02:18:57,580 --> 02:18:55,059
groups we have company pages we have

2574
02:19:01,330 --> 02:18:57,590
article writing we have the trending in

2575
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:01,340
and and and now all of these elements

2576
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:03,050
that make it so cool that nobody else is

2577
02:19:08,980 --> 02:19:06,050
doing but once that news feed goes in

2578
02:19:11,469 --> 02:19:08,990
the five or six or seven things that

2579
02:19:13,629 --> 02:19:11,479
everybody should have on a social media

2580
02:19:15,790 --> 02:19:13,639
site we're all going to be there and

2581
02:19:19,690 --> 02:19:15,800
running and then that's it man it's off

2582
02:19:21,070 --> 02:19:19,700
to the races oh I agree I agree I'm

2583
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:21,080
excited for it

2584
02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:29,169
coming into that say how many tokens see

2585
02:19:36,339 --> 02:19:34,639
having your wallet 200 mm 75 Roseanne's

2586
02:19:39,070 --> 02:19:36,349
what I'm talking about

2587
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,080
okay now Mike let's get off on seller

2588
02:19:45,339 --> 02:19:41,679
for a second welcome and thank you and

2589
02:19:47,530 --> 02:19:45,349
and and I look forward to a nice long

2590
02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:47,540
fun friendship on on stellar in this

2591
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:50,210
program but let me ask you let me ask

2592
02:19:55,540 --> 02:19:52,370
you here's the test I'm gonna test you

2593
02:19:59,130 --> 02:19:55,550
who's your favorite heavy metal guitar

2594
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:04,270
honestly to me though you know I grew up

2595
02:20:10,889 --> 02:20:07,130
and I was born in 66 but the 80s was my

2596
02:20:14,559 --> 02:20:10,899
favorite along with the late 70s okay

2597
02:20:17,980 --> 02:20:14,569
you're right in my boys house so I can't

2598
02:20:20,590 --> 02:20:17,990
wait to hear this Eddie Van Halen is my

2599
02:20:23,380 --> 02:20:20,600
favorite there you go that's what I'm

2600
02:20:25,420 --> 02:20:23,390
talking see the thing is Mike and thank

2601
02:20:28,660 --> 02:20:25,430
you for the phone call but what is

2602
02:20:33,790 --> 02:20:28,670
important here is that when you say

2603
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:33,800
family the thing is I have always let it

2604
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:36,160
all hang out I don't know you know I I

2605
02:20:43,599 --> 02:20:40,850
don't hide anything and so when I when I

2606
02:20:46,929 --> 02:20:43,609
talk about the things that motivate me

2607
02:20:51,099 --> 02:20:46,939
like Eddie Van Halen write music or

2608
02:20:55,570 --> 02:20:51,109
movies or or food or breakfast cereals

2609
02:20:58,660 --> 02:20:55,580
or UFOs or time travel or Egypt these

2610
02:21:01,090 --> 02:20:58,670
are the things that interest me and the

2611
02:21:03,610 --> 02:21:01,100
audience has grown because they listen

2612
02:21:06,610 --> 02:21:03,620
to this they may not you know Egypt

2613
02:21:11,010 --> 02:21:06,620
maybe it is it may not be Eddie Van

2614
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:11,020
Halen or 80s hair band it may not but

2615
02:21:15,130 --> 02:21:13,370
something is gonna you know and they're

2616
02:21:22,030 --> 02:21:15,140
gonna you know what this dude does this

2617
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:22,040
dude Church he's all right that's all

2618
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:23,930
that happens here Mike and and you

2619
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:26,960
picked up on that so thank you and let's

2620
02:21:32,740 --> 02:21:29,290
go hang out on on stellar after the show

2621
02:21:34,870 --> 02:21:32,750
right on and I think you and Rita and

2622
02:21:35,559 --> 02:21:34,880
the crew and Theresa wanted me to say to

2623
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:35,569
Rita

2624
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:37,290
thanks for accepting of

2625
02:21:42,500 --> 02:21:39,810
friend requests there you go alright

2626
02:21:43,130 --> 02:21:42,510
give give Teresa my best mic and don't

2627
02:21:46,580 --> 02:21:43,140
be a stranger

2628
02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:46,590
I will thank you so much great phone

2629
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:49,410
call hi your life I'm fade to black

2630
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:52,560
who's calling hey Jimmy it's your

2631
02:21:54,730 --> 02:21:54,210
brother from another mother Jonathan

2632
02:21:58,910 --> 02:21:54,740
hall

2633
02:22:01,100 --> 02:21:58,920
Jonathan Hall how are you man I'm good

2634
02:22:02,750 --> 02:22:01,110
sir how are you doing it's it's Thursday

2635
02:22:08,810 --> 02:22:02,760
night man its fate or night head Nick

2636
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:08,820
Pope right god yes anyway listen I want

2637
02:22:14,511 --> 02:22:12,570
to thank you so much I'm on on stellar

2638
02:22:17,650 --> 02:22:14,521
as you know we chat a little bit earlier

2639
02:22:20,180 --> 02:22:17,660
on there but I want to urge people

2640
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:20,190
there's all kinds of you I listen to

2641
02:22:25,070 --> 02:22:21,930
people talk about all kinds of different

2642
02:22:26,540 --> 02:22:25,080
things on your show and there's been

2643
02:22:29,511 --> 02:22:26,550
some people calling they have some

2644
02:22:32,390 --> 02:22:29,521
deep-rooted beliefs right and I just

2645
02:22:35,630 --> 02:22:32,400
urge people to be tender to one another

2646
02:22:39,620 --> 02:22:35,640
over there we all have something to

2647
02:22:42,740 --> 02:22:39,630
share and I've been around the block a

2648
02:22:46,670 --> 02:22:42,750
few times and I can tell you that

2649
02:22:48,820 --> 02:22:46,680
everyone has something to say we may not

2650
02:22:53,900 --> 02:22:48,830
agree with it but if we listen to them

2651
02:22:58,670 --> 02:22:53,910
where I come from there's there's

2652
02:23:02,060 --> 02:22:58,680
something that speaks through them and

2653
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:02,070
if you listen you may hear something

2654
02:23:08,420 --> 02:23:04,080
that you're supposed to hear in order to

2655
02:23:13,300 --> 02:23:08,430
maybe make you take a look somewhere but

2656
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:13,310
beyond that I also want to say that I

2657
02:23:19,430 --> 02:23:15,600
heard your show the other night as you

2658
02:23:22,430 --> 02:23:19,440
know and then you spoke about Google and

2659
02:23:25,070 --> 02:23:22,440
YouTube and you spoke about the

2660
02:23:28,190 --> 02:23:25,080
statistics which I found quite

2661
02:23:31,430 --> 02:23:28,200
terrifying I knew that oh well they had

2662
02:23:35,630 --> 02:23:31,440
pretty much taken over but I had no idea

2663
02:23:37,930 --> 02:23:35,640
to what degree I have gotten our

2664
02:23:41,330 --> 02:23:37,940
facebook a long time ago back during the

2665
02:23:45,250 --> 02:23:41,340
the election we had last for numerous

2666
02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:45,260
reasons also knowing what Facebook was

2667
02:23:50,990 --> 02:23:48,290
before they published what they

2668
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:51,000
published to the public in the news and

2669
02:23:57,860 --> 02:23:55,530
everything else and I have put a post up

2670
02:24:02,150 --> 02:23:57,870
there on on stellar if people would like

2671
02:24:04,670 --> 02:24:02,160
to see it kind of a crazy title but it's

2672
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:04,680
it's the title makes the pointing point

2673
02:24:11,330 --> 02:24:08,010
of just how personal they get with you

2674
02:24:13,460 --> 02:24:11,340
and your family your kids and how they

2675
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:13,470
cannot wait for you to put that little

2676
02:24:18,350 --> 02:24:15,210
phone in their hand so they can start

2677
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:18,360
getting on there and I think we all know

2678
02:24:24,260 --> 02:24:22,410
that it's social programming that they

2679
02:24:27,170 --> 02:24:24,270
are trying to direct us in spirits in

2680
02:24:28,820 --> 02:24:27,180
certain ways if they don't know that

2681
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:28,830
they're not paying attention

2682
02:24:34,370 --> 02:24:32,160
I've been called paranoid I also reply

2683
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:34,380
well if you're not paranoid you're not

2684
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:36,570
paying attention that's a cliche that's

2685
02:24:41,390 --> 02:24:38,310
been going around but there is so much

2686
02:24:45,340 --> 02:24:41,400
truth to that I just want to say thank

2687
02:24:47,990 --> 02:24:45,350
you and keep doing what you're doing

2688
02:24:50,300 --> 02:24:48,000
afraid to say you have a new star on

2689
02:24:53,900 --> 02:24:50,310
your show named Micah yeah he's amazing

2690
02:24:56,300 --> 02:24:53,910
us man the first time I heard him go on

2691
02:24:58,370 --> 02:24:56,310
there I laughed and giggled through that

2692
02:24:59,930 --> 02:24:58,380
whole thing listening to him it was

2693
02:25:02,060 --> 02:24:59,940
amazing

2694
02:25:05,150 --> 02:25:02,070
he totally upstaged you and Nick by the

2695
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:05,160
way and so you better move over there's

2696
02:25:10,310 --> 02:25:06,930
a new kid on the block that's exactly

2697
02:25:12,770 --> 02:25:10,320
right that's you know what a getting

2698
02:25:15,770 --> 02:25:12,780
upstaged by mica is what life is all

2699
02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:15,780
about that's it that's it

2700
02:25:25,580 --> 02:25:19,050
I mean if you if you really think about

2701
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:25,590
it the there is always an evolutionary

2702
02:25:30,350 --> 02:25:28,290
process and anything right and think

2703
02:25:32,780 --> 02:25:30,360
about the guitar players from the 50s

2704
02:25:34,940 --> 02:25:32,790
and look at these kids today playing

2705
02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:34,950
guitar man go check out have you know

2706
02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:36,930
checked out bumblefoot you know and you

2707
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:38,640
go watch him and you're just like wait a

2708
02:25:43,490 --> 02:25:40,130
minute here man

2709
02:25:46,700 --> 02:25:43,500
stop the bus right this is what's going

2710
02:25:48,770 --> 02:25:46,710
on today and so you have this you know

2711
02:25:50,780 --> 02:25:48,780
who would have thought that Eddie Van

2712
02:25:52,910 --> 02:25:50,790
Halen could have been improved upon or

2713
02:25:56,290 --> 02:25:52,920
Steve Vai could have been improved upon

2714
02:25:59,300 --> 02:25:56,300
or you know you go back Jimmy Page or

2715
02:26:02,000 --> 02:25:59,310
Hendrix and you know how could these

2716
02:26:03,540 --> 02:26:02,010
things approve but they all do and it's

2717
02:26:06,029 --> 02:26:03,550
the same thing with

2718
02:26:07,769 --> 02:26:06,039
with knowledge or basketball you know

2719
02:26:08,429 --> 02:26:07,779
who could have gotten better than Jerry

2720
02:26:10,979 --> 02:26:08,439
West

2721
02:26:13,109 --> 02:26:10,989
well then along comes Michael Jordan who

2722
02:26:14,939 --> 02:26:13,119
would have been better than dr. J right

2723
02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:14,949
and Michael Jordan comes along then he

2724
02:26:19,649 --> 02:26:17,020
got Kobe Bryant and now we've got LeBron

2725
02:26:21,179 --> 02:26:19,659
James or whatever you know things get

2726
02:26:24,569 --> 02:26:21,189
better and better and better and better

2727
02:26:27,750 --> 02:26:24,579
and and so today Mika

2728
02:26:29,819 --> 02:26:27,760
nine years old if I get shown up by Mika

2729
02:26:34,319 --> 02:26:29,829
bring it I love every second of it

2730
02:26:35,969 --> 02:26:34,329
thank you so much Jonathan one last one

2731
02:26:36,569 --> 02:26:35,979
last thing and I'm gonna get out of here

2732
02:26:40,950 --> 02:26:36,579
sure

2733
02:26:42,569 --> 02:26:40,960
Mika is the future and he not just the

2734
02:26:44,609 --> 02:26:42,579
future I'm speaking for children in

2735
02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:44,619
general and this is why I feel so

2736
02:26:49,260 --> 02:26:46,720
strongly about some of the things that I

2737
02:26:51,450 --> 02:26:49,270
have to say be it on on stellar or just

2738
02:26:54,809 --> 02:26:51,460
communicating with you right is that the

2739
02:26:57,630 --> 02:26:54,819
kids are our future and we need to

2740
02:27:00,779 --> 02:26:57,640
protect them from those that would love

2741
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:00,789
to take over our world and that's all I

2742
02:27:04,679 --> 02:27:02,890
have to say about that and we have to do

2743
02:27:08,130 --> 02:27:04,689
what we have to do in order to make

2744
02:27:11,519 --> 02:27:08,140
their future possible free a free future

2745
02:27:13,710 --> 02:27:11,529
god bless Jimmy all my best now and

2746
02:27:17,099 --> 02:27:13,720
forever thank you so much Jonathan great

2747
02:27:20,250 --> 02:27:17,109
phone call my friend all right have a

2748
02:27:21,899 --> 02:27:20,260
good night and and he is he's absolutely

2749
02:27:23,519 --> 02:27:21,909
right there I've got time for one more

2750
02:27:25,679 --> 02:27:23,529
phone call then I'm gonna comment on

2751
02:27:31,500 --> 02:27:25,689
this after the break hi you're live on

2752
02:27:33,750 --> 02:27:31,510
fade to black who's calling hi Mike from

2753
02:27:36,809 --> 02:27:33,760
Montana yeah what are you like my fourth

2754
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:36,819
Mike phone call tonight what are the

2755
02:27:40,290 --> 02:27:38,170
odds of that all right

2756
02:27:42,599 --> 02:27:40,300
how are you Mike what's going on pretty

2757
02:27:44,460 --> 02:27:42,609
good hey I wanted to ask one quick

2758
02:27:46,769 --> 02:27:44,470
question that on Snowden and I wanted to

2759
02:27:50,099 --> 02:27:46,779
ask you something else but uh went on

2760
02:27:56,309 --> 02:27:50,109
still trying up alerts on my videos is

2761
02:28:00,689 --> 02:27:56,319
there a limit sighs maybe what I would

2762
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:00,699
do for now if the videos are up on

2763
02:28:07,050 --> 02:28:04,960
YouTube just use a youtube link I I

2764
02:28:10,410 --> 02:28:07,060
don't have that technical answer right

2765
02:28:13,380 --> 02:28:10,420
now but what I would do if you if you

2766
02:28:15,809 --> 02:28:13,390
need to find this out just write info at

2767
02:28:17,489 --> 02:28:15,819
on stellar calm and

2768
02:28:19,949 --> 02:28:17,499
ask that question and you will get a

2769
02:28:22,319 --> 02:28:19,959
response all right

2770
02:28:25,409 --> 02:28:22,329
okay bad thing I want I don't have the

2771
02:28:28,159 --> 02:28:25,419
answers to everything I'm close I'm

2772
02:28:30,689 --> 02:28:28,169
close Mike okay what's your question

2773
02:28:33,119 --> 02:28:30,699
well it's not really a question it's

2774
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:33,129
kind of like a list of Nick earlier they

2775
02:28:37,619 --> 02:28:34,810
have said something about death death

2776
02:28:40,559 --> 02:28:37,629
being you know maybe the end point or

2777
02:28:43,829 --> 02:28:40,569
whatever right I dress I drowned at six

2778
02:28:48,869 --> 02:28:43,839
years old and I can tell him it's not

2779
02:28:52,109 --> 02:28:48,879
really the end point I was six years old

2780
02:28:55,199 --> 02:28:52,119
I drowned in the river went 300 some

2781
02:28:58,340 --> 02:28:55,209
yards underwater and was lucky that I

2782
02:29:03,300 --> 02:28:58,350
actually got pulled out by the person I

2783
02:29:05,609 --> 02:29:03,310
encountered me and but I was I was

2784
02:29:10,250 --> 02:29:05,619
probably without a heartbeat

2785
02:29:13,229 --> 02:29:10,260
no breathing for seven eight minutes and

2786
02:29:15,719 --> 02:29:13,239
during that whole time yeah there is a

2787
02:29:19,619 --> 02:29:15,729
light I saw that too well what really

2788
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:19,629
got me was even at six years old I had

2789
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:21,550
never heard any of this stuff before

2790
02:29:27,059 --> 02:29:24,970
at six years old my life went backwards

2791
02:29:30,929 --> 02:29:27,069
at the moment that I realized there was

2792
02:29:33,809 --> 02:29:30,939
no turning back you know I I done sucked

2793
02:29:38,279 --> 02:29:33,819
in the water I couldn't it was fading

2794
02:29:40,460 --> 02:29:38,289
fast you know but my life everyday the

2795
02:29:44,069 --> 02:29:40,470
highlights of every day of my life

2796
02:29:46,079 --> 02:29:44,079
all the way back to my birth it amazed

2797
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:46,089
me that's what really amazing it's like

2798
02:29:52,590 --> 02:29:49,810
if I was a hallucination how could you

2799
02:29:56,279 --> 02:29:52,600
do that as a six-year-old you know I'm

2800
02:29:58,349 --> 02:29:56,289
saying because there's no there's no you

2801
02:30:01,529 --> 02:29:58,359
know like people say you're influenced

2802
02:30:03,869 --> 02:30:01,539
by all these things as you go over I had

2803
02:30:05,969 --> 02:30:03,879
no influence I didn't even understand

2804
02:30:08,369 --> 02:30:05,979
what was about to happen I knew I was

2805
02:30:13,409 --> 02:30:08,379
going to probably die but I didn't

2806
02:30:14,909 --> 02:30:13,419
realize the experience and for seven

2807
02:30:18,719 --> 02:30:14,919
minutes I went through the whole

2808
02:30:22,109 --> 02:30:18,729
experience and when it wide finally

2809
02:30:24,779 --> 02:30:22,119
eating regained consciousness the first

2810
02:30:28,590 --> 02:30:24,789
thing I said was why did you bring me

2811
02:30:29,791 --> 02:30:28,600
back right and and and was like they all

2812
02:30:32,881 --> 02:30:29,801
looked at me strange

2813
02:30:35,430 --> 02:30:32,891
I was probably still green color and I

2814
02:30:39,211 --> 02:30:35,440
was like you know where I was I was

2815
02:30:42,780 --> 02:30:39,221
perfectly happy and I came back and I

2816
02:30:45,780 --> 02:30:42,790
was like somebody messed up here I'm not

2817
02:30:50,400 --> 02:30:45,790
supposed to be here not with you all and

2818
02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:50,410
and it seemed like like I got booted out

2819
02:30:54,900 --> 02:30:52,660
you know you know like one surviving it

2820
02:30:57,570 --> 02:30:54,910
throughout the house it really kind of

2821
02:31:00,121 --> 02:30:57,580
for a long time it kind of I don't want

2822
02:31:02,690 --> 02:31:00,131
say depressed me but it I just didn't

2823
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:02,700
feel like I belong here you know I mean

2824
02:31:09,121 --> 02:31:05,530
because of all that experience that I

2825
02:31:11,091 --> 02:31:09,131
went through during that seven minutes

2826
02:31:14,251 --> 02:31:11,101
we've seen like an eternity

2827
02:31:16,350 --> 02:31:14,261
I don't know I don't know if Nick's

2828
02:31:18,810 --> 02:31:16,360
right about it being the end I just

2829
02:31:20,970 --> 02:31:18,820
think it's I'm not religious I don't you

2830
02:31:24,030 --> 02:31:20,980
know I don't go around with a bobble

2831
02:31:26,461 --> 02:31:24,040
hand all that right but I know there's

2832
02:31:28,921 --> 02:31:26,471
something beyond this I don't know

2833
02:31:32,491 --> 02:31:28,931
exactly what it is I got a taste of it

2834
02:31:34,501 --> 02:31:32,501
and be honest with you I really I don't

2835
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:34,511
fear death I thought oh I did some of

2836
02:31:40,411 --> 02:31:36,730
the stupidest things anybody could

2837
02:31:47,251 --> 02:31:40,421
imagine right I'm free climbing a face

2838
02:31:50,011 --> 02:31:47,261
cliff exactly right and can't I hate to

2839
02:31:51,871 --> 02:31:50,021
admit but I had a bottle of Jack and to

2840
02:31:53,841 --> 02:31:51,881
my buddies with me and we decided hey

2841
02:31:58,051 --> 02:31:53,851
why not let's try it

2842
02:32:01,820 --> 02:31:58,061
so I mean crazy stuff like added yeah

2843
02:32:05,430 --> 02:32:01,830
but I never feared death from six on

2844
02:32:08,610 --> 02:32:05,440
even to this day I've been car wreck it

2845
02:32:12,091 --> 02:32:08,620
was killed most people I flipped the car

2846
02:32:14,820 --> 02:32:12,101
17 times hit a culvert jackknifed it and

2847
02:32:18,030 --> 02:32:14,830
what it did is it slammed through a

2848
02:32:20,310 --> 02:32:18,040
stone column at the end of this man is

2849
02:32:23,220 --> 02:32:20,320
driveway they went through the driver

2850
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:23,230
side and I was on the passenger side

2851
02:32:28,831 --> 02:32:25,650
hanging onto a strap with two threads

2852
02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:28,841
holding on to the door and if it had

2853
02:32:32,610 --> 02:32:30,580
broke loose I would have been over in

2854
02:32:34,650 --> 02:32:32,620
the middle of that stone pile coming

2855
02:32:37,171 --> 02:32:34,660
through but I walked away from that

2856
02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:37,181
wreck without a scratch it it actually

2857
02:32:41,911 --> 02:32:39,280
freaked the priest out who showed up to

2858
02:32:43,230 --> 02:32:41,921
give me last right as I walked away late

2859
02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:43,240
okay

2860
02:32:48,930 --> 02:32:45,730
I wrecked my car but I'm still either

2861
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:48,940
can't help and didn't have a scratch on

2862
02:32:53,551 --> 02:32:51,010
me and the people at the farmer that

2863
02:32:55,470 --> 02:32:53,561
owned the property he saw it was at

2864
02:32:59,551 --> 02:32:55,480
nighttime so he saw the car lights and

2865
02:33:02,730 --> 02:32:59,561
all and but he looked at me and he said

2866
02:33:04,110 --> 02:33:02,740
you have not not even a scratch and he

2867
02:33:05,131 --> 02:33:04,120
had to break a window out for me to

2868
02:33:08,190 --> 02:33:05,141
actually get out of the car

2869
02:33:10,711 --> 02:33:08,200
there was no hood no trunk no door on

2870
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:10,721
the driver's side was gone after the

2871
02:33:15,091 --> 02:33:13,210
last impact the seat went through the

2872
02:33:17,610 --> 02:33:15,101
back one thereafter the rocks fall to

2873
02:33:19,921 --> 02:33:17,620
earth motor was laying about 300 yards

2874
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:19,931
with the trainee probably 100 yards away

2875
02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:23,110
the rear axle was at the beginning of it

2876
02:33:32,881 --> 02:33:28,240
all about 300 yards back and so they

2877
02:33:34,110 --> 02:33:32,891
also see you know and and that's Mike I

2878
02:33:35,881 --> 02:33:34,120
want to thank you for the phone call I

2879
02:33:38,761 --> 02:33:35,891
got a break to a commercial but what's

2880
02:33:40,711 --> 02:33:38,771
really cool is that you went through

2881
02:33:43,410 --> 02:33:40,721
that experience and then when you hear

2882
02:33:44,730 --> 02:33:43,420
something you know like Nick you know

2883
02:33:47,160 --> 02:33:44,740
that there's something else out there

2884
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:47,170
you know I'll talk more about this when

2885
02:33:52,860 --> 02:33:49,090
I come back this is fade to black coming

2886
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:52,870
on Jimmy Church Spader night Thursday

2887
02:33:56,590 --> 02:33:54,010
night I'll be right back more of your

2888
02:34:00,330 --> 02:33:56,600
phone calls there next stay with me

2889
02:34:02,559 --> 02:34:00,340
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black who's calling hey man how are you

2981
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that's the question oh it's like my

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Thursday Wednesday night I'm good are

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on the road ok just long as you're

2985
02:39:03,131 --> 02:38:59,261
behaving I'll take this phone call

2986
02:39:05,770 --> 02:39:03,141
always always so I'm curious does that

2987
02:39:08,801 --> 02:39:05,780
I've seen the names on black vault about

2988
02:39:10,751 --> 02:39:08,811
the a a WPS or whatever it was that

2989
02:39:11,921 --> 02:39:10,761
might have actually been tainted instead

2990
02:39:17,591 --> 02:39:11,931
yeah awesome

2991
02:39:19,001 --> 02:39:17,601
yeah yeah you eat from what it sounded

2992
02:39:21,511 --> 02:39:19,011
like is it sounded like we might have

2993
02:39:24,671 --> 02:39:21,521
been doing the queries wrong on the

2994
02:39:26,051 --> 02:39:24,681
Freedom of Information accident but it

2995
02:39:28,421 --> 02:39:26,061
also sounds like that may have been

2996
02:39:29,770 --> 02:39:28,431
underhanded - based on like you were

2997
02:39:31,060 --> 02:39:29,780
saying I'll be honest I didn't get to

2998
02:39:32,680 --> 02:39:31,070
hear Nick Pope earlier because I

2999
02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:32,690
literally turn the show on about 20

3000
02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:35,690
minutes ago yeah we didn't know yeah we

3001
02:39:41,020 --> 02:39:39,070
didn't talk about that tonight but I I

3002
02:39:43,541 --> 02:39:41,030
understand what you're saying because

3003
02:39:47,591 --> 02:39:43,551
that's what there are some out there

3004
02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:47,601
that are trying to suggest just that and

3005
02:40:00,211 --> 02:39:51,530
that may be the case that these the

3006
02:40:08,350 --> 02:40:00,221
these queries with you right right no

3007
02:40:09,881 --> 02:40:08,360
John Greenwald John's note that came up

3008
02:40:11,801 --> 02:40:09,891
on the site didn't sound like he was

3009
02:40:14,591 --> 02:40:11,811
insinuating there was any ill intent

3010
02:40:16,570 --> 02:40:14,601
from to the stars over this information

3011
02:40:18,190 --> 02:40:16,580
it sounded like maybe that they were

3012
02:40:20,501 --> 02:40:18,200
going with information they had and this

3013
02:40:22,211 --> 02:40:20,511
is probably what it was changed to and

3014
02:40:24,541 --> 02:40:22,221
since they didn't know it was changed

3015
02:40:26,671 --> 02:40:24,551
today nobody else did either yeah

3016
02:40:32,220 --> 02:40:26,681
memories went nowhere

3017
02:40:34,970 --> 02:40:32,230
to me this is my take on that those are

3018
02:40:36,241 --> 02:40:34,980
and this has nothing to do with

3019
02:40:38,701 --> 02:40:36,251
Greenwald

3020
02:40:41,911 --> 02:40:38,711
and his excellent research that he does

3021
02:40:50,461 --> 02:40:41,921
with the black vault this is my opinion

3022
02:40:53,310 --> 02:40:50,471
only which is the you have to have your

3023
02:40:57,121 --> 02:40:53,320
ducks in a row and if you are going to

3024
02:41:00,930 --> 02:40:57,131
come out and say a tip and you are going

3025
02:41:04,470 --> 02:41:00,940
to do a release like that and get this

3026
02:41:07,230 --> 02:41:04,480
information out in and quoted into the

3027
02:41:10,531 --> 02:41:07,240
New York Times then you know what it

3028
02:41:12,091 --> 02:41:10,541
needs to be correct right and that's it

3029
02:41:15,180 --> 02:41:12,101
you don't know yet you don't have a

3030
02:41:17,551 --> 02:41:15,190
second shot at that and and now that

3031
02:41:21,121 --> 02:41:17,561
it's come out that the Pentagon

3032
02:41:24,541 --> 02:41:21,131
themselves have said that it is aviation

3033
02:41:27,031 --> 02:41:24,551
and it's not aerospace I want that stuff

3034
02:41:29,551 --> 02:41:27,041
correct and I want answers for that I

3035
02:41:31,531 --> 02:41:29,561
don't want to have run around I don't

3036
02:41:33,361 --> 02:41:31,541
want to have rhetoric I don't want to

3037
02:41:34,861 --> 02:41:33,371
have it you know we'll it's a different

3038
02:41:38,640 --> 02:41:34,871
program it's this is that you know what

3039
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:38,650
give me the documents that say a tip

3040
02:41:45,001 --> 02:41:41,110
with your name on it

3041
02:41:48,060 --> 02:41:45,011
other than that please save it I just

3042
02:41:51,390 --> 02:41:48,070
don't want to hear it this community has

3043
02:41:53,761 --> 02:41:51,400
been run around in circles for four

3044
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:53,771
decades and so if you're gonna come out

3045
02:41:59,491 --> 02:41:56,530
and say a tip is this and and I ran this

3046
02:42:03,180 --> 02:41:59,501
program I want to see the documents III

3047
02:42:05,541 --> 02:42:03,190
don't I don't want I want I want I want

3048
02:42:09,871 --> 02:42:05,551
your resignation letter I want something

3049
02:42:12,631 --> 02:42:09,881
but don't give me words that's it

3050
02:42:16,741 --> 02:42:12,641
I'm done with it I'm done with it a nos

3051
02:42:20,551 --> 02:42:16,751
AB says weapons and and it has nothing

3052
02:42:22,770 --> 02:42:20,561
to do with the suggestion of ET or

3053
02:42:25,501 --> 02:42:22,780
anything else or UFOs or anything else

3054
02:42:27,781 --> 02:42:25,511
so it looks like it's a completely

3055
02:42:29,791 --> 02:42:27,791
separate program that has nothing it

3056
02:42:32,611 --> 02:42:29,801
sounds like Star Wars to me and that's

3057
02:42:34,921 --> 02:42:32,621
that's my take I just want I just want

3058
02:42:38,260 --> 02:42:34,931
the documentation to back this up right

3059
02:42:40,659 --> 02:42:38,270
now it's nothing but flapping of the jaw

3060
02:42:43,149 --> 02:42:40,669
well and but think about thing about

3061
02:42:44,800 --> 02:42:43,159
this part if you read the note that was

3062
02:42:49,569 --> 02:42:44,810
on black ball one of the interesting

3063
02:42:52,269 --> 02:42:49,579
lines of that note that popped up oh we

3064
02:42:55,869 --> 02:42:52,279
lost you but I just saw the data - did

3065
02:42:58,269 --> 02:42:55,879
pop up but that message clearly states

3066
02:43:00,189 --> 02:42:58,279
that AUSA actually was something that

3067
02:43:04,269 --> 02:43:00,199
Corey Goode was talking about that's

3068
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:04,279
right no no no right what is out there

3069
02:43:06,489 --> 02:43:05,359
because I didn't want to say this one

3070
02:43:08,380 --> 02:43:06,499
for a while we talked about the

3071
02:43:09,519 --> 02:43:08,390
community policing itself right good

3072
02:43:11,139 --> 02:43:09,529
throw it out there Jimmy I found the

3073
02:43:12,909 --> 02:43:11,149
stance with Corey good ever since I went

3074
02:43:15,639 --> 02:43:12,919
to the YouTube page and fought and found

3075
02:43:17,529 --> 02:43:15,649
the video of the blue orb and quite

3076
02:43:19,630 --> 02:43:17,539
clearly saw that he was using a night

3077
02:43:21,789 --> 02:43:19,640
vision filter because iPhone do not have

3078
02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:21,799
night vision built into them and you can

3079
02:43:25,569 --> 02:43:23,359
clearly see that that's a drone with

3080
02:43:27,789 --> 02:43:25,579
something attached to the top okay I

3081
02:43:30,069 --> 02:43:27,799
haven't seen what you're I think yeah I

3082
02:43:32,529 --> 02:43:30,079
haven't seen my channel I haven't seen

3083
02:43:34,329 --> 02:43:32,539
what your reference out on there it's

3084
02:43:37,059 --> 02:43:34,339
called a blue orb filmed with white

3085
02:43:38,769 --> 02:43:37,069
iPhone or something like that okay he's

3086
02:43:40,749 --> 02:43:38,779
never stayed at they could joke he has

3087
02:43:42,699 --> 02:43:40,759
stated that on your show a couple times

3088
02:43:44,499 --> 02:43:42,709
that that's a legit video and even on

3089
02:43:46,749 --> 02:43:44,509
there people are calling it out right

3090
02:43:48,609 --> 02:43:46,759
right and comments still there right

3091
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:48,619
right I'm not trying to call him out

3092
02:43:51,789 --> 02:43:49,850
into a corner because what I find very

3093
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:51,799
fascinating about this and wait a minute

3094
02:43:56,079 --> 02:43:53,359
Corey Goods been talking about awesome

3095
02:43:58,119 --> 02:43:56,089
for a couple of years and now suddenly

3096
02:44:01,469 --> 02:43:58,129
we're getting hits on it with Freedom of

3097
02:44:04,329 --> 02:44:01,479
Information Act that actually almost

3098
02:44:06,249 --> 02:44:04,339
somewhat makes Corey sound like he

3099
02:44:08,949 --> 02:44:06,259
really is who he is and I know you guys

3100
02:44:10,420 --> 02:44:08,959
have your relationship but the outsider

3101
02:44:13,029 --> 02:44:10,430
is looking in there's a lot of us that

3102
02:44:16,619 --> 02:44:13,039
look at what Ian David not to say and

3103
02:44:21,309 --> 02:44:16,629
kind of look at it you know on the fence

3104
02:44:24,880 --> 02:44:21,319
and you have to be you have to be on the

3105
02:44:27,639 --> 02:44:24,890
fence you have to be yeah and you have

3106
02:44:29,529 --> 02:44:27,649
the dr. Michael sallow books that also

3107
02:44:31,389 --> 02:44:29,539
corroborate what he says get as far as I

3108
02:44:33,039 --> 02:44:31,399
can tell the two of them never met until

3109
02:44:36,069 --> 02:44:33,049
way later when they were both doing guy

3110
02:44:38,649 --> 02:44:36,079
stuff yeah yep yep yep yep that's a

3111
02:44:44,679 --> 02:44:38,659
little interesting it is it is okay so

3112
02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:44,689
let me quickly state here now that it is

3113
02:44:51,099 --> 02:44:49,279
gone public a little bit the document

3114
02:44:53,739 --> 02:44:51,109
that has a SAP in it

3115
02:44:56,439 --> 02:44:53,749
that has been referenced that document

3116
02:45:02,139 --> 02:44:56,449
was sent to me last year

3117
02:45:06,540 --> 02:45:02,149
okay it was sent to me by Corey and I

3118
02:45:09,909 --> 02:45:06,550
read there's two there's two reports and

3119
02:45:12,460 --> 02:45:09,919
written by Eric Davis and I read through

3120
02:45:15,130 --> 02:45:12,470
the report and I'm just gonna say this

3121
02:45:18,790 --> 02:45:15,140
out in the open right now when I read

3122
02:45:22,569 --> 02:45:18,800
through the two reports that Corey sent

3123
02:45:24,189 --> 02:45:22,579
me this before it got published online I

3124
02:45:26,260 --> 02:45:24,199
read through them and I thought okay

3125
02:45:27,909 --> 02:45:26,270
cool stuff wormholes you know warp

3126
02:45:30,399 --> 02:45:27,919
drives this is fun stuff

3127
02:45:33,790 --> 02:45:30,409
but it's science fiction it's theory

3128
02:45:36,119 --> 02:45:33,800
okay it's theory and it's fun to read

3129
02:45:40,119 --> 02:45:36,129
and I just left it on my desktop

3130
02:45:43,989 --> 02:45:40,129
Corey then published it in December I

3131
02:45:45,429 --> 02:45:43,999
think he sent it to me like October of

3132
02:45:47,590 --> 02:45:45,439
last year so we're looking at nine

3133
02:45:50,199 --> 02:45:47,600
months ago I got these documents I

3134
02:45:52,090 --> 02:45:50,209
didn't speak about them publicly I just

3135
02:45:54,939 --> 02:45:52,100
sat on them I read through them they're

3136
02:45:58,239 --> 02:45:54,949
both extents have been long and and I

3137
02:46:01,389 --> 02:45:58,249
just let it go when it came out last

3138
02:46:05,109 --> 02:46:01,399
week that there was this secret document

3139
02:46:10,029 --> 02:46:05,119
right well and there was an insider that

3140
02:46:11,830 --> 02:46:10,039
had leaked the no the the document page

3141
02:46:16,059 --> 02:46:11,840
that was referenced I'm not gonna say

3142
02:46:19,420 --> 02:46:16,069
who on this particular blog was the

3143
02:46:22,510 --> 02:46:19,430
exact PDF that Corey made of these files

3144
02:46:24,460 --> 02:46:22,520
when he sent it to me it's like wait a

3145
02:46:31,059 --> 02:46:24,470
minute and the cover of the document

3146
02:46:34,090 --> 02:46:31,069
says for release right it's it's not

3147
02:46:36,510 --> 02:46:34,100
secret it's for internal use only

3148
02:46:40,510 --> 02:46:36,520
so this had been floating around since

3149
02:46:42,790 --> 02:46:40,520
2010 when the document the report I

3150
02:46:44,559 --> 02:46:42,800
should say was written and aa sap is

3151
02:46:47,679 --> 02:46:44,569
referenced in there but it's not top

3152
02:46:49,599 --> 02:46:47,689
secret it's not anything it's a report

3153
02:46:53,469 --> 02:46:49,609
that was written by Eric Davis two of

3154
02:46:54,680 --> 02:46:53,479
them and there was no insider leaking

3155
02:46:58,640 --> 02:46:54,690
these thing

3156
02:47:00,980 --> 02:46:58,650
and all of that it I'm sorry just don't

3157
02:47:03,470 --> 02:47:00,990
buy into that because I was sent the

3158
02:47:05,871 --> 02:47:03,480
documents and Cory was given these

3159
02:47:08,511 --> 02:47:05,881
reports and was told then that these

3160
02:47:10,551 --> 02:47:08,521
weren't secret and it's clearly states

3161
02:47:13,610 --> 02:47:10,561
on the tie on the cover of that they are

3162
02:47:17,770 --> 02:47:13,620
not so with the reference to ah sap

3163
02:47:21,801 --> 02:47:17,780
whatever you know it's a weapons program

3164
02:47:24,890 --> 02:47:21,811
that could be Star Wars or whatever but

3165
02:47:27,801 --> 02:47:24,900
it has nothing to do with a tip and for

3166
02:47:30,770 --> 02:47:27,811
somebody to say that and I could be way

3167
02:47:33,440 --> 02:47:30,780
wrong here but and I've discussed this

3168
02:47:36,200 --> 02:47:33,450
with a green wall at lengthen and green

3169
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:36,210
wall has his opinion I have mine but I

3170
02:47:41,450 --> 02:47:40,080
don't see anything it that has anything

3171
02:47:43,070 --> 02:47:41,460
to do with anything here it's just

3172
02:47:46,310 --> 02:47:43,080
something that's in a deep an

3173
02:47:47,841 --> 02:47:46,320
unclassified report that was written by

3174
02:47:50,480 --> 02:47:47,851
Eric Davis and that's the end of the

3175
02:47:52,341 --> 02:47:50,490
story has nothing to do with a tip and I

3176
02:47:54,230 --> 02:47:52,351
still have my issues with a tip and

3177
02:47:57,860 --> 02:47:54,240
that's the end of it that's the end of

3178
02:48:01,671 --> 02:47:57,870
it I think it's great that Corey found

3179
02:48:03,740 --> 02:48:01,681
these he was given them and that he

3180
02:48:06,680 --> 02:48:03,750
chose to post them online and they've

3181
02:48:08,751 --> 02:48:06,690
been out there for for since December

3182
02:48:12,381 --> 02:48:08,761
and it's nothing secret and there's

3183
02:48:16,070 --> 02:48:12,391
nothing crazy about it it's a to report

3184
02:48:18,411 --> 02:48:16,080
by Eric Davis and the note on green

3185
02:48:20,211 --> 02:48:18,421
walls web page came up made it sound

3186
02:48:21,950 --> 02:48:20,221
like he got it from a Freedom of

3187
02:48:24,411 --> 02:48:21,960
Information Act request about awesome

3188
02:48:25,761 --> 02:48:24,421
and that's where these information is

3189
02:48:28,640 --> 02:48:25,771
coming from not from something closed

3190
02:48:32,121 --> 02:48:28,650
online back then yes I could be wrong no

3191
02:48:34,911 --> 02:48:32,131
no no no now what you're referring to

3192
02:48:40,730 --> 02:48:34,921
there is and this was quite by accident

3193
02:48:43,700 --> 02:48:40,740
which is really cool which stubbing your

3194
02:48:46,131 --> 02:48:43,710
toe on gold yes yes because it sounded

3195
02:48:48,440 --> 02:48:46,141
like because John yes this is what John

3196
02:48:51,411 --> 02:48:48,450
told me himself and I don't want to

3197
02:48:52,490 --> 02:48:51,421
quote him or anything I can bring him on

3198
02:48:56,081 --> 02:48:52,500
the show and he can tell me exactly

3199
02:48:59,990 --> 02:48:56,091
again he can repeat it but he the AUSA

3200
02:49:03,890 --> 02:49:00,000
happened to show up in another search

3201
02:49:05,341 --> 02:49:03,900
that he had done I believe a couple of

3202
02:49:07,921 --> 02:49:05,351
years ago

3203
02:49:10,530 --> 02:49:07,931
and and it happened to be in there I

3204
02:49:12,301 --> 02:49:10,540
think that's what he said and he was

3205
02:49:14,761 --> 02:49:12,311
like man what are the odds of this how

3206
02:49:18,421 --> 02:49:14,771
cool is I'm like absolutely right what

3207
02:49:21,270 --> 02:49:18,431
are the odds right so and that's what

3208
02:49:23,820 --> 02:49:21,280
he's referring to on his site and I'll

3209
02:49:26,791 --> 02:49:23,830
have to go back and look I didn't go to

3210
02:49:30,150 --> 02:49:26,801
black vault and check it out but he did

3211
02:49:32,160 --> 02:49:30,160
tell me about this in a phone call last

3212
02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:32,170
week and I think we followed up on it

3213
02:49:37,261 --> 02:49:34,420
what is today today's Thursday I think

3214
02:49:40,020 --> 02:49:37,271
I've talked to Monday or Tuesday I can

3215
02:49:41,180 --> 02:49:40,030
get John back on the show and I should

3216
02:49:44,041 --> 02:49:41,190
call him right now

3217
02:49:46,320 --> 02:49:44,051
maybe I should maybe I should just call

3218
02:49:48,810 --> 02:49:46,330
him right now but yeah yeah pretty cool

3219
02:49:50,850 --> 02:49:48,820
so they're gonna get my question

3220
02:49:52,801 --> 02:49:50,860
answered BAM

3221
02:49:58,591 --> 02:49:52,811
have a great night and be safe driving

3222
02:50:02,190 --> 02:49:58,601
that truck oh there you go all right

3223
02:50:02,580 --> 02:50:02,200
thank you behave you guys have a great

3224
02:50:05,430 --> 02:50:02,590
night

3225
02:50:08,730 --> 02:50:05,440
yeah you too thank you hi you're live on

3226
02:50:16,830 --> 02:50:08,740
fade to black who's calling yo Jimmy

3227
02:50:22,770 --> 02:50:16,840
what's cracking who's this hello hello

3228
02:50:26,761 --> 02:50:22,780
yes you're live oh hey Jordan how are

3229
02:50:37,381 --> 02:50:26,771
you man man how you doing so who was the

3230
02:50:40,530 --> 02:50:37,391
best metal guitar player from the 80s I

3231
02:50:41,671 --> 02:50:40,540
knew you I was gonna answer for you okay

3232
02:50:47,341 --> 02:50:41,681
Mick Mars there you go

3233
02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:47,351
what's on your mind tonight Jordan the

3234
02:50:57,120 --> 02:50:51,250
last song that I listened to today you

3235
02:51:01,830 --> 02:50:57,130
mean today would have been what did I

3236
02:51:03,900 --> 02:51:01,840
listen to today I listened to oh oh you

3237
02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:03,910
know what I listened to and it was

3238
02:51:10,770 --> 02:51:08,650
incredible what I listened to was Graham

3239
02:51:13,740 --> 02:51:10,780
bonnet number one his new release I

3240
02:51:18,020 --> 02:51:13,750
listened to that and then immediately

3241
02:51:25,850 --> 02:51:18,030
after that I listened to Steve Vai

3242
02:51:30,770 --> 02:51:25,860
and Chad Smith and do a cover version of

3243
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:30,780
burn by deep purple man that's a good

3244
02:51:34,670 --> 02:51:32,880
that's a pretty good yeah man so that's

3245
02:51:38,720 --> 02:51:34,680
what I listened to today man I listened

3246
02:51:43,490 --> 02:51:38,730
to and I think it's off of re machined

3247
02:51:45,350 --> 02:51:43,500
it's a deep purple cover album but man

3248
02:51:46,280 --> 02:51:45,360
what an incredible version of that song

3249
02:51:50,900 --> 02:51:46,290
oh man

3250
02:51:53,270 --> 02:51:50,910
and it's it's close the keyboard solo is

3251
02:51:57,381 --> 02:51:53,280
is know for note but other than that

3252
02:51:59,631 --> 02:51:57,391
it's a complete redo really well done

3253
02:52:05,210 --> 02:51:59,641
really well done okay so what's on your

3254
02:52:07,160 --> 02:52:05,220
mind Jordan so man it was a good week

3255
02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:07,170
this week with all the shows Nana crazy

3256
02:52:14,990 --> 02:52:09,840
yeah I know I learned so much it sorry

3257
02:52:16,780 --> 02:52:15,000
about that oh but you know Pretty Boy

3258
02:52:20,900 --> 02:52:16,790
Floyd right yep

3259
02:52:23,841 --> 02:52:20,910
did you hear their drummer died no are

3260
02:52:27,080 --> 02:52:23,851
you kidding man yeah he died yeah

3261
02:52:30,440 --> 02:52:27,090
omeone 1945 he had cancer I didn't know

3262
02:52:33,470 --> 02:52:30,450
that yeah man he died yesterday I think

3263
02:52:36,140 --> 02:52:33,480
yeah when I went I saw him at a I saw a

3264
02:52:39,470 --> 02:52:36,150
pretty boy at Herman's and he collapsed

3265
02:52:42,290 --> 02:52:39,480
on stage and my friend's mom actually

3266
02:52:43,850 --> 02:52:42,300
helped save him he was like it was crazy

3267
02:52:46,610 --> 02:52:43,860
dude he like totally passed out and

3268
02:52:49,280 --> 02:52:46,620
during a song migrate during a song and

3269
02:52:55,660 --> 02:52:49,290
then he uh yeah he ended up dying like

3270
02:53:04,400 --> 02:52:55,670
yesterday man yeah crazy huh I did not

3271
02:53:06,740 --> 02:53:04,410
I'm blown away I'm looking here to see I

3272
02:53:10,520 --> 02:53:06,750
I don't see it online oh wait a minute

3273
02:53:12,230 --> 02:53:10,530
here we go I only did an Instagram post

3274
02:53:15,110 --> 02:53:12,240
there's really not much about it yeah

3275
02:53:21,250 --> 02:53:15,120
here it is right here yeah I've got it

3276
02:53:25,520 --> 02:53:21,260
done wow that's crazy and the thing is

3277
02:53:27,381 --> 02:53:25,530
back back in the 80s and there's

3278
02:53:28,910 --> 02:53:27,391
probably some people that are listening

3279
02:53:29,780 --> 02:53:28,920
right now that will know exactly what

3280
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:29,790
I'm talking about

3281
02:53:33,800 --> 02:53:32,010
there was a rehearsal studio in

3282
02:53:36,500 --> 02:53:33,810
Hollywood it was called the Hollywood

3283
02:53:41,260 --> 02:53:36,510
and Western building on the corner of

3284
02:53:45,830 --> 02:53:41,270
Hollywood and Western and they rehearsed

3285
02:53:50,210 --> 02:53:45,840
with us on the fourth floor there for a

3286
02:53:52,250 --> 02:53:50,220
couple of years and yeah the coolest man

3287
02:53:55,130 --> 02:53:52,260
in the world I mean I I can't tell you

3288
02:53:59,599 --> 02:53:55,140
how many times I've seen him play and

3289
02:54:03,760 --> 02:53:59,609
how much fun that we had but hi maybe a

3290
02:54:10,910 --> 02:54:07,610
man I am blown away

3291
02:54:16,610 --> 02:54:10,920
I am just I don't even know what to to

3292
02:54:19,420 --> 02:54:16,620
think about this i I just don't know

3293
02:54:21,889 --> 02:54:19,430
what to say so he had cancer

3294
02:54:24,380 --> 02:54:21,899
yes cancer and he's still playing shows

3295
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:24,390
to like we totally watched him collapse

3296
02:54:28,790 --> 02:54:27,210
on stage at Herman's hideaway which we

3297
02:54:31,340 --> 02:54:28,800
played that stage that's where we opened

3298
02:54:33,190 --> 02:54:31,350
up for a hookers blow Wow yeah we

3299
02:54:36,260 --> 02:54:33,200
totally watch him collapse on stage and

3300
02:54:37,540 --> 02:54:36,270
yeah his my friend's mom helped save him

3301
02:54:40,429 --> 02:54:37,550
is crazy

3302
02:54:42,200 --> 02:54:40,439
Wow and then he still fights shows after

3303
02:54:43,790 --> 02:54:42,210
that he was like so playing shows like

3304
02:54:45,530 --> 02:54:43,800
we just heard he was playing in like New

3305
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:45,540
York like a week after that was crazy

3306
02:54:56,750 --> 02:54:51,120
Wow I mean I'm uh I'm blown away

3307
02:55:03,110 --> 02:54:56,760
the are weat the drummer that I remember

3308
02:55:06,380 --> 02:55:03,120
back then as then was Carrie oh it's not

3309
02:55:08,660 --> 02:55:06,390
it's not Carrie okay no that's what I

3310
02:55:10,099 --> 02:55:08,670
wait for whatever reason but yeah yeah

3311
02:55:12,260 --> 02:55:10,109
how these bands are nowadays they have

3312
02:55:14,349 --> 02:55:12,270
like all kinds and um members and all

3313
02:55:16,639 --> 02:55:14,359
kinds of all right and it changes right

3314
02:55:17,990 --> 02:55:16,649
because now you have Jack Russell great

3315
02:55:19,880 --> 02:55:18,000
white and then you have the original

3316
02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:19,890
great white and they have Bobby Blazers

3317
02:55:25,250 --> 02:55:22,170
rat and now Stephen piercings rat you

3318
02:55:32,179 --> 02:55:25,260
know right right right yeah yeah it's

3319
02:55:34,370 --> 02:55:32,189
well look at Queens Reich you know yeah

3320
02:55:38,929 --> 02:55:34,380
I mean how could you have Queens Reich

3321
02:55:42,171 --> 02:55:38,939
without Jeff Tate I'd listen to I went I

3322
02:55:44,661 --> 02:55:42,181
went back to back a couple of weeks ago

3323
02:55:47,361 --> 02:55:44,671
and I was listening to the new singer

3324
02:55:50,180 --> 02:55:47,371
for Queens Reich and he and I did that

3325
02:55:54,051 --> 02:55:50,190
first and I think the song that I

3326
02:55:56,241 --> 02:55:54,061
listened to was n m156 right so I'm

3327
02:55:58,970 --> 02:55:56,251
listening to the new Queens Reich live

3328
02:56:02,511 --> 02:55:58,980
doing that with the new singer and then

3329
02:56:08,361 --> 02:56:02,521
I went over and caught Jeff Tate's

3330
02:56:11,591 --> 02:56:08,371
Queens Reich doing n m156 man man

3331
02:56:15,861 --> 02:56:11,601
two different things going on here and

3332
02:56:18,680 --> 02:56:15,871
it's I mean that that's all I'm gonna

3333
02:56:20,451 --> 02:56:18,690
say both versions are good you know in

3334
02:56:22,850 --> 02:56:20,461
the in the original Queens Reich you

3335
02:56:26,001 --> 02:56:22,860
know you got the back you know in it you

3336
02:56:29,121 --> 02:56:26,011
know but but Jeff Tate is Jeff Tate and

3337
02:56:30,801 --> 02:56:29,131
I don't want to I don't want to take

3338
02:56:32,511 --> 02:56:30,811
anything away from this other singer I

3339
02:56:36,111 --> 02:56:32,521
don't know his name

3340
02:56:38,361 --> 02:56:36,121
because he's good but there's only one

3341
02:56:39,111 --> 02:56:38,371
Jeff Tate right there's only one yeah I

3342
02:56:43,220 --> 02:56:39,121
agree

3343
02:56:46,071 --> 02:56:43,230
it's kind of like they're gonna replace

3344
02:56:48,171 --> 02:56:46,081
me here with Mike Portnoy Russ as good

3345
02:56:52,071 --> 02:56:48,181
as that would be it's not rush without

3346
02:56:56,331 --> 02:56:52,081
you here yes I mean no it's not and well

3347
02:57:00,770 --> 02:56:56,341
let's go with Ripper Owens right yeah

3348
02:57:06,381 --> 02:57:00,780
great Ripper Owens is good he's good but

3349
02:57:08,801 --> 02:57:06,391
he ain't no Rob Halford and I'm not

3350
02:57:12,230 --> 02:57:08,811
taking anything against away from Ripper

3351
02:57:16,269 --> 02:57:12,240
dude okay so do you think rip the best

3352
02:57:23,889 --> 02:57:21,039
oh man I think you know what you've been

3353
02:57:26,079 --> 02:57:23,899
all up close and personal I have no yes

3354
02:57:28,109 --> 02:57:26,089
yes I've been right there with both of

3355
02:57:30,099 --> 02:57:28,119
them face to face but the thing is

3356
02:57:34,119 --> 02:57:30,109
you're talking about two different

3357
02:57:37,569 --> 02:57:34,129
styles there now if I was okay if I was

3358
02:57:40,689 --> 02:57:37,579
gonna say rock and roll dude rock and

3359
02:57:43,569 --> 02:57:40,699
roll yeah you got a go deal but if

3360
02:57:45,699 --> 02:57:43,579
you're going a heavy metal I think the

3361
02:57:49,210 --> 02:57:45,709
the more difficult argument that you get

3362
02:57:53,380 --> 02:57:49,220
into here is a Rob Halford or Jeff Tate

3363
02:57:54,269 --> 02:57:53,390
ooh now now we're into a zone here that

3364
02:58:00,519 --> 02:57:54,279
that's rough

3365
02:58:02,949 --> 02:58:00,529
do with that but I'd say the overall

3366
02:58:05,829 --> 02:58:02,959
dude I mean the overall rock and roll

3367
02:58:08,349 --> 02:58:05,839
guy then then you got to say robber

3368
02:58:10,630 --> 02:58:08,359
plant or you know you got to go into

3369
02:58:15,670 --> 02:58:10,640
some different areas there and it's

3370
02:58:17,559 --> 02:58:15,680
really really really tough so you know

3371
02:58:21,029 --> 02:58:17,569
what and then you know what I really

3372
02:58:25,389 --> 02:58:21,039
like Graham bonnet and and Graham bonnet

3373
02:58:29,949 --> 02:58:25,399
yeah man he's just absolutely incredible

3374
02:58:33,069 --> 02:58:29,959
i-i've said over the years what what do

3375
02:58:40,599 --> 02:58:33,079
you do about somebody like Graham bonnet

3376
02:58:43,300 --> 02:58:40,609
who is so melodical so pure he well and

3377
02:58:47,170 --> 02:58:43,310
go back you know he can sing R&B you

3378
02:58:50,170 --> 02:58:47,180
know and you go back to his stuff that

3379
02:58:52,719 --> 02:58:50,180
he did in the in the early early 70s

3380
02:58:56,309 --> 02:58:52,729
before rainbow and you're like man you

3381
02:58:59,229 --> 02:58:56,319
know he's one of the best the late 60s

3382
02:59:03,399 --> 02:58:59,239
so anyway what do you do with these

3383
02:59:05,889 --> 02:59:03,409
kinds of decisions I I don't know I

3384
02:59:09,519 --> 02:59:05,899
don't know my heart lies with with Rob

3385
02:59:11,920 --> 02:59:09,529
Halford when when Queens Reich came

3386
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:11,930
along that first EP with queen of the

3387
02:59:15,219 --> 02:59:13,850
Reich and I heard that and I thought

3388
02:59:16,079 --> 02:59:15,229
well there's the greatest singer that

3389
02:59:19,300 --> 02:59:16,089
ever lived

3390
02:59:24,920 --> 02:59:19,310
yeah and the first Queens right album

3391
02:59:30,810 --> 02:59:28,860
yeah yeah just rip vocals though it's

3392
02:59:31,920 --> 02:59:30,820
crazy dude yeah I wish I had that kind

3393
02:59:34,261 --> 02:59:31,930
of range yep

3394
02:59:36,480 --> 02:59:34,271
yeah I you know what I did with Rita I

3395
02:59:40,650 --> 02:59:36,490
did this I've got a run here I've got a

3396
02:59:44,011 --> 02:59:40,660
head Jordan but back in like this like

3397
02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:44,021
15 years ago I said to read us it do you

3398
02:59:48,301 --> 02:59:46,240
really want to hear a good singer

3399
02:59:50,670 --> 02:59:48,311
and we were just debating one day about

3400
02:59:55,140 --> 02:59:50,680
you know music and stuff and I played

3401
03:00:01,110 --> 02:59:55,150
her silent lucidity and and I think I

3402
03:00:03,900 --> 03:00:01,120
played her right and I played her flame

3403
03:00:05,970 --> 03:00:03,910
right take hold of the flame yeah and

3404
03:00:10,350 --> 03:00:05,980
she was like I've never heard anybody

3405
03:00:14,630 --> 03:00:10,360
sing like this you know and man yeah he

3406
03:00:17,130 --> 03:00:14,640
blows people's minds you know and and so

3407
03:00:23,790 --> 03:00:17,140
wow that's crazy dude he's like the bed

3408
03:00:31,950 --> 03:00:23,800
yeah I I saw I saw Queens Reich open for

3409
03:00:34,170 --> 03:00:31,960
kiss in like 1984 yeah 8480 you know

3410
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:34,180
what you want me to blow your mind I

3411
03:00:43,620 --> 03:00:37,570
don't even remember I went there to go

3412
03:00:47,040 --> 03:00:43,630
see it was it was 80 84 85 Long Beach

3413
03:00:50,761 --> 03:00:47,050
arena yeah and I went to go see Queens

3414
03:00:54,120 --> 03:00:50,771
Reich and kiss had they had them so

3415
03:00:57,600 --> 03:00:54,130
choked back the Queen's Reich was really

3416
03:01:00,330 --> 03:00:57,610
low and compressed and but they sounded

3417
03:01:03,030 --> 03:01:00,340
amazing and kiss came out and it was all

3418
03:01:05,910 --> 03:01:03,040
loud you know and everything and it

3419
03:01:08,910 --> 03:01:05,920
sounded like crap and and kiss really

3420
03:01:10,830 --> 03:01:08,920
got shown up hey Jordan behave and be

3421
03:01:14,160 --> 03:01:10,840
one of my friend enjoy the rest of your

3422
03:01:16,020 --> 03:01:14,170
weekend go have some fun all right man

3423
03:01:18,360 --> 03:01:16,030
before I go we're playing a show this

3424
03:01:20,610 --> 03:01:18,370
weekend at an artery before Colin yeah

3425
03:01:22,200 --> 03:01:20,620
so it's gonna be 15 bucks anybody that's

3426
03:01:24,600 --> 03:01:22,210
in Fort Collins tomorrow and check us

3427
03:01:27,750 --> 03:01:24,610
out man fine what if they were fade to

3428
03:01:29,190 --> 03:01:27,760
black sir do they get in for free yeah

3429
03:01:30,750 --> 03:01:29,200
they get in for free and they get an

3430
03:01:31,591 --> 03:01:30,760
infinite Empire shirt that's what I'm

3431
03:01:33,780 --> 03:01:31,601
talking about

3432
03:01:36,091 --> 03:01:33,790
all right Jordan they have a great gig

3433
03:01:36,930 --> 03:01:36,101
this weekend take some pictures all

3434
03:01:39,780 --> 03:01:36,940
right

3435
03:01:42,900 --> 03:01:39,790
well you for sure there you go Jordan

3436
03:01:45,390 --> 03:01:42,910
the drummer for infinite Empire playing

3437
03:01:47,490 --> 03:01:45,400
this weekend you heard it in for Collins

3438
03:01:48,121 --> 03:01:47,500
go check it out all right I gotta get

3439
03:01:50,400 --> 03:01:48,131
out of here

3440
03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:50,410
it's another Fator night great night

3441
03:01:55,860 --> 03:01:52,570
tonight with everybody thank you so much

3442
03:01:56,700 --> 03:01:55,870
and of course I've got to thank Jon

3443
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Rappoport

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for his no more fake newsroom live then

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of course Nick Pope coming in and

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Manning the phones with me tonight

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heating things up great conversation

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painted blacks executive producers Rita

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Kumari on shows produced by Hill J

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Palmer in a Dennis and Bob announces our

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Steve harder Jean Patou a mark D Kovar

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webmaster drew the geek music doug

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aldrich intros space boy space boy

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music.com fade to black is produced by

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kjsurya a 2018 by fade to black in the

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game changer network they cannot be

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anywhere in the known universe without

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written permission from bae the block of

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the game-changer network I'm yours Jimmy

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Church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

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head over to on stellar everybody until

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Monday everybody be saved